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Is Your BackPack Full & Are You Ready To Escape?
By R. Tyler 10/27/09
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There are "signs of the times" that we should know about and be prepared to recognize and respond to appropriately.
***1 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him they asked him to show them a sign from heaven. 2He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' 3And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. Matt 16 ESV
Some of those signs are warnings of imminent danger and
for the well being of ourselves and our loved ones, we need to be prepared to quickly take appropriate action, to have our "backpacks" prepared and ready to go at a moment's notice.
***16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 The one who is on the housetop should not go down to take what is in his house, 18 and the one who is in the field should not turn back to take his cloak. 19 And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! 20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. Mat 24
I live in So California and we Californians have been well warned that from San Francisco to San Diego we are due for a terribly destructive earthquake. So in order to survive adequately many of us have done what was advised, storing up at least two weeks of food and water, candles and matches, batteries etc. In the MidWest they have tornado and blizzard warnings and in the South East they have hurricane warnings, and those who want to survive adequately take the appropriate steps to do so. When we are told that the flu season is coming, we get our vaccinations.
Jesus tells us to know the signs of the times and be prepared to respond appropriately.
Jesus didn't correct His disciples when they asked "And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?” [Lk 21:7]
Jesus taught that as part of "signs of the times" persecution of His children/disciples will occur before the horrors come, horrors like "wars and commotions, . . Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. . . . earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; . . . . fearful sights and great signs from heaven."
***12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. . . . 16 You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death. 17 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. [Luke 21 NKJV]
***23 When they persecute you in one town, escape to another. . . . [Mat 10]
Since we are warned that before "all Hell breaks loose on earth" we will be persecuted, we need to be ready to obey Jesus and escape to another town, city, county, province, parish, state or country when persecuted in our own town, city, county, province, parish, state or country. We saw in the Bible's Acts that Jesus used the persecution of the Christians in and around Jerusalem to scatter/send them throughout land, spreading the Gospel as they went [Acts 8:2]. Even in America we need to have our "backpacks" and minds prepared for the possibility that we may need to move to continue living somewhat normally, because persecution of Christians in America is getting worse every year, especially under pressure from the immoral and homosexual pressure groups, atheists, evolutionists, secularists, Obama and the Obamacrats.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/5027/persecution-of-christians-around-the-world-ignored
http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/06/13/legal-persecution-of-christians-in-the-west-has-begun/
The great Mid-Eastern war of Rev 6 could take place any time now, especially if Iran and Israel go to war over Iran's threats to use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel, if you are like me and believe that the rapture takes place at the last Trumpet (1 Cor 15:51-53; 1 Thess 4:15-17; Rev 11). One fourth of the Mid-Eastern population would die within a month of that war (by violence, famine, pestilence) and the chaos that would produce in oil extraction, shipping and delivering would result in economic chaos in many nations, but especially in the USA. Are your "backpacks" and minds ready to cope with all this? Why would Jesus allow that to happen to America, the land of the free and the home of the brave?
American leaders in the 1700s - - -
***Romans 1:19 For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them. 20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). . . .
American leaders in the 2000s - - -
. . . . So [Americans] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], 21Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead the [Americans] became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools [declaring that Jesus-Jehovah is no god Psa 14:1]. 23And by them the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God were exchanged for and represented by images [of celebrities, movie stars, entertainers, athletes, actors, actresses, singers etc], resembling mortal man and birds and beasts and reptiles. 24Therefore God gave them up in the evil desires of their [own] hearts to sexual immorality, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves [in sexual sin], 25 Because they exchanged [Jesus.] the Truth of God, for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen. 26 Their females exchanged natural sex relations<5446+5540>* for those that are contrary to God's design<3844+5449>*; 27 likewise/so/equally/similarly/IN THE SAME WAY<3668>* having left the God designed/made physiological/biological functions/use of the female, the males were inflamed in their evil desire for that which is forbidden<3715>* to do with each other<1519>*, males in/with/by males working/doing/performing genitals<2716+808>* and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fit for their error. 28 And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome, 29 Until they were filled (permeated and saturated) with every kind of unrighteousness, iniquity, grasping and covetous greed, and malice. [American movies, TV programs and songs are] full of envy and jealousy, murder, strife, deceit and treachery, ill will and cruel ways. [American love entertainment that features] secret backbiters and gossipers, 30 [Americans are] slanderers, hateful to and hating God, full of insolence, arrogance, [and] boasting; inventors of new forms of evil, disobedient and undutiful to parents. 31 [Americans are] without understanding, conscienceless and faithless promise breakers, heartless and loveless [and] merciless. 32 Though they are fully aware of God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them themselves but approve and applaud others who practice them. [From the AmpBible] *See Strong's (5631); & (5740), Strong's lexicon
Did you get that? "32 Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them."
Remember Pharaoh? Remember how he hardened his heart numerous times and rebelled against Moses and Jesus-Jehovah? Remember how Jesus-Jehovah gave him up to his own will and desire and stopped dealing with Pharaoh? In the same way after Jesus appealed to America by Dwight L. Moody, Billy Graham, Frances Schaeffer, Martin Luther King Jr etc, America's leaders, elected by the American people, rejected God's Word from His messengers and kicked prayer and the Bible out of public schools, stopped having students read the writings of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution because of their Christian faith and testimonies, repudiated the Bible and the Creator and unscientifically elevated the theory of evolution from theory to alleged fact, ridiculed and mocked Americans who agreed with the writers of the Declaration of Independence about the Creator and His providence in America, and rejected the Bible's sexual morality for a totally amoral way of life. So what is the present spiritual status of America, and what lies ahead in its future? Why do the people believe the lies their leaders are telling them?
***2 Thess 2:9 . . . through the activity and working of Satan [Eph 2:1,2] . . . 10 And by unlimited seduction to evil and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing (going to perdition) because they did not welcome [Jesus,] the Truth, but refused to love it that they might be saved. 11Therefore God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion to make them believe what is false, 12 In order that all may be judged and condemned who did not believe in [who refused to adhere to, trust in, and rely on] the Truth, but [instead] took pleasure in unrighteousness.
America has sinned against Jesus by treacherously and grievously doing wrong, [acting] without [God's] permission, and Jesus-Jehovah in Ezek 14 warns us that "when a land sins against Me by treacherously and grievously doing wrong, [acting] without [God's] permission<4603 +4604>, and I stretch out My hand against it and break its staff of bread and send famine upon it and cut off from it man and beast, . . . 15 If I cause ferocious and evil wild animals to pass through the land and they ravage and bereave it, and it becomes desolate so that no man may pass through because of the beasts; . . . 17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land and say, Sword, go through the land, so that I cut off man and beast from it, . . . 19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My wrath upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast, 20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, says the Lord God, they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would but deliver their own lives by their [God given] righteousness [granted by God for their faith in Him]
Yes, surely we have the promse that "God is faithful , and He [can be trusted] not to let you be tempted and tried and assayed beyond your ability and strength of resistance and power to endure." Yet all you have to do to get the right perspective is to remember that Father allowed His Son to be tortured to death and Jesus' 11 Apostles to die painfully violent deaths while He kept that promise. He gave them the "ability and strength of resistance and power to endure" such deaths, but their deaths were unpleasant, uncomfortable and painful.
***and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.NKJV Romans 8:16-18
*** 1. Now if we are afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effective for enduring the same sufferings which we also suffer. Or if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.And our hope for you is steadfast, because we know that as you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.
2 Corinthians 1:6-8
***For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
Philippians 1:28-30
***For, in fact, we told you before when we were with you that we would suffer tribulation, just as it happened, and you know. 1 Thessalonians 3:3-5
***Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.2 Timothy 3:11-13
***though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.Hebrews 5:7-9
***12Therefore let anyone who thinks he stands [who feels sure that he has a steadfast mind and is standing firm], take heed lest he fall [into sin].
***12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy.1 Peter 4
SO WE CAN THANK GOD FOR HIS PROMISE, HOWEVER HE KEEPS IT, KEEPING IT BY MIRACULOUS DELIVERANCE OR BY TAKING US HOME TO BE SAFE WITH HIM FOREVER
*** 13For no temptation (no trial regarded as enticing to sin), [no matter how it comes or where it leads] has overtaken you and laid hold on you that is not common to man [that is, no temptation or trial has come to you that is beyond human resistance and that is not adjusted and adapted and belonging to human experience, and such as man can bear]. But God is faithful [to His Word and to His compassionate nature], and He [can be trusted] not to let you be tempted and tried and assayed beyond your ability and strength of resistance and power to endure, but with the temptation He will [always] also provide the way out (the means of escape to a landing place), that you may be capable and strong and powerful to bear up under it patiently. 14Therefore, my dearly beloved, shun (keep clear away from, avoid) any sort of idolatry (of loving or venerating anything more than God).
Are prepared to "step up to the plate" and join Moses to live with heroic faith?
***Hebrews 11:24-26 (New King James Version)
24 By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26 esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward. . . 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. 15 And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.
Can this be said of you, of us, of our loved ones?
By faith I, being of age, refuse to be called the son of America, choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in America; for I look to the reward. I live by faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off I am assured of them, embrace them and confess that I am a stranger and pilgrim on the earth. I declare plainly that I seek a homeland. I think of America from which country I come, and I have the opportunity to turn my loyalties to America. But now I desire a better country, that is, a heavenly country, the Kingdom of God, the New Jerusalem, New Heaven and Earth (Rev 21 &22). Therefore I know that God is not ashamed to be called my God, for He has prepared a City for me and the rest of His children/disciples.
Are your "backpacks" packed and ready to flee and escape if possible?
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A Reason Torah Observance Can Be An Issue Today For Both Messianic Jews & Christian Gentiles
By R Tyler, 10/26/09
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We know from Acts 15 and 21 that the Apostles and all the other Messianic Jews were still obeying the Sinai Law, according to the covenant of their ancestors at Sinai, while the Christian Gentiles were released from having to obey most of the Sinai Law, except to "abstain from and avoid anything that has been polluted by being offered to idols, and all sexual impurity, and [eating meat of animals] that have been strangled, and [tasting of] blood.
21 BECAUSE from ancient generations Moses has had his preachers in every town, for he is read [aloud] every Sabbath in the synagogues." Later when there were many Christian assemblies where there were few if any Messianic Jews, the Spirit moved Paul to write the Word in Romans 14, 1 Cor 8 & 10 to show Torah observant Messianic Jews and most Christian Gentiles, freed from having to keep most of the Sinai Law, how to be in good and harmonious fellowship.
SO IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, ESPECIALLY IN THE ERA OF THE BOOK OF ACTS,
THERE WERE BELIEVERS KEEPING THE SINAI LAW AND CHRISTIAN GENTILES WHO WERE NOT REQUIRED TO KEEP SINAI LAW, BUT BOTH GROUPS WERE UNDER GOD'S WORD TO ABSTAIN FROM FORNICATION, SEX SIN. Torah observant Messianic Jews are bound by the following, while the Christian Jews are not, except in some cases of Deut 22:25-29
***Exod 21:7 If a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant or bondwoman, she shall not go out [in six years] as menservants do.
8 If she does not please her master who has not espoused her to himself, he shall let her be redeemed. To sell her to a foreign people he shall have no power, for he has dealt faithlessly with her. 9 And if he espouses her to his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. 10 If he marries again, her food, clothing, and privilege as a wife shall he not diminish. 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, then shall she go out free, without payment of money.
***Exod 22:***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be his wife. 17 If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equivalent to the dowry of virgins.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that had genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with her; . . . 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901> with her, and they are found/discovered; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901> with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath violated her, he may not put her away all his days.
There is a good possibility that this Law could apply to Christian Gentiles, in that it is sex sin to have genital contact with an uncommitted virgin, genital contact that is found out and discovered by others than the two, and then fail to be maritally bound to her for the rest of his life. For a discussion of why a Christian Gentile might not be bound by this law, see below at @@@@@.
A key word in this consideration is Strong's 07901 shakab {shaw-kab'}; v
Qal: to lie, lie down, lie on, to lie (of sexual relations, relating to another
by means of a sex organ, genital contact)
***Lev 18:22 And thou shalt not have genital contact<07901> with mankind as one has genital contact with a woman: it is an abomination. 23 And thou shalt have genital contact<07901> with no beast to become unclean [by genital fluids] therewith; and a woman shall not stand before a beast to have genital contact <07901> with it: it is confusion.
So any genital contact between two people of the same sex and/or
anyone having genital contact with animals represents sin and is not fit for a
follower of Christ to do, see or think about (Phil 4:8) or enjoy (Rom 1:32)
The 3rd Century B.C. Jewish translators who gave us the Septuagint
rendered "Shakab" in the Greek as "Koitayn". Koitayn is rendered by
Lexigraphers Strong and Thayer as "cohabitation, . . . sexual intercourse."
Sexual intercourse is communicating with another by means of a sex organ.
Harper's Analytical Greek Lexicon agrees. Lexigraphers Arndt & Gingrich go even further rendering it as "sexual intercourse, . . . seminal emission
(Num 5:20 . . . Lev 15:16f, 32; 18:20; 22:4 . . .)." This is the Greek word used in Heb 13:4 of marital sex in the marriage bed. To have sexual intercourse with someone is to be communicating and/or interacting with someone by means of a sex organ (penis, pudenda, vulva, clitoris, vagina). If a person does not realize that there is communication and interaction when the penis of a man touches the skin of a woman, that person doesn't know sex. Nonverbal communication is as significant as verbal communication and
powerful and effective nonverbal communication is the penis of a man
touching the skin or mucous membrane of a woman, or the
clitoris/labia/pudenda/vulva/vagina of a woman touching the skin or
mucous membrane of a man, or the breast/nipple of a woman of a woman
touching the skin or mucous membrane of a man. Only the ignorant fail
to realize the reality of the nonverbal communication between the man
and the woman that takes place when the penis of a man is inside the
body of a woman or touches the skin of a woman.
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Deut 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901> with her, and they are found/discovered; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901> with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath violated her, he may not put her away all his days.
A Gentile Christian who does this with such a virgin, especially one who has done this several times, appears to be under command to be married to her
according to the following, except in cases listed below 1 Cor 7:
*** 1 Cor 7:2 but because of and to avoid sexual immorality each man should be [sexually] having his own woman, and each woman should be [sexually] having her own man. . . . 8To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. 9 But if they do not [Strong's 3756] continue to restrain themselves [keep on abstaining from sex sin], they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.
HOWEVER, the Christian Gentile must not marry such a virgin if she is one of the following:
[1] A believer in a false god: MALA 2:11 Judah has acted treacherously, and a detestable thing has been done in Israel and in Jerusalem. For Judah has profaned the LORD's sanctuary, which He loves, and has married the daughter of a foreign god. 12 To the man who does this, may the LORD cut off any descendants from the tents of Jacob, even if they present an offering to the LORD of Hosts. HCSB
[2] An unbeliever or believer in a false god: 2 Cor 6:14-7:3;
[3] A "believer" snared in sex sin, immorality or greed, idolatry [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or railing, abusing, reviling, slandering, or is a drunkard or a swindler or an extortioner or a robber [1 Cor 5:3-11]
[4] A "believer" who "is slack in the performance of duty and is disorderly, living as a shirker and not walking in accord with the traditions and instructions that you have received from us. 2 Thess 3:6-14
[5.] A "believer" who creates dissensions and difficulties and causes divisions, in opposition to the doctrine (the teaching) which we find in the Word/Bible Rom 16:17,18
[6] A "believer" who fails to continue to keep Jesus' commands, who continues to not keep His Word, who does not continue to walk just as He walked. See 1 John 2:18,19 and
1 John 3:4-14:
4 Everyone who sins breaks the Law [of God]; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that He [Jesus] appeared so that He might take away our sins. And in Him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in Him [deliberately and knowingly] keeps on doing a sin. No one who [deliberately and knowingly] continues to do a sin has either seen Him or known Him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that keeps on doing righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous. 8 He who [deliberately and knowingly] continues to do a sin is of the devil; for the devil keeps on sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God does not [deliberately and knowingly] continue to do a sin; for His seed remains in him: and he cannot [deliberately and knowingly] keep on doing a sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not keep on doing righteousness is not of God, neither he who is not loving his brother. . . 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we keep on unselfishly and kindly Loving our brothers. Anyone who does not continue to unselfishly and kindly Love remains in death.
A genuine child of God cannot "keep on doing a sin, because he is born of God" and God will chasten him/her out of the sin (Hebrews 12) with weakness, sickness or hardships to get him/her to stop sinning, with the genuine repentance of godly sorrow (1 Cor 11:25-35; 1 Cor 5:3-5; 2 Cor 7). If she/he does not genuinely repent of the sin in godly sorrow 92 Cor 7), the chastening may even mean the death of his/her body (1 Cor 11:25-35; 1 Cor 5:3-5) so that her/his spirit can be saved from that sin.
The godly in Christ who are not successfully abstaining from sex sin, in thought or deed, obey this command because Jesus won't let them continue to sin. Those in Jesus who try to continue on while failing to consistently abstain from sex sin, choosing not to obey Jesus and marry, encounter Jesus' discipling and chastening, often in the form of weakness, sickness or even the sleep of death (1 Cor 5:3-5; 11:30-32; Heb 12).
Causing Others To Sin - - Never Okay to Sin
By Tyler 10/15/09
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There appears to be a serious misunderstanding of Scripture that could
result in suffering and loss for believers. It is very important to
realize that people can CAUSE OTHER PEOPLE TO SIN, can destroy the work
of God in another's life, can cause another to stumble into sin, and
can spiritually weaken others.
***Mat 18:6But if anyone CAUSES one of these little ones who believe in
me TO SIN, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung
around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to
the world because of the things that CAUSE PEOPLE TO SIN! Such things
must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! Matthew 18:6-8NIV
***ROM 14:20 Do not, for the sake of food, DESTROY the work of God.
Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to MAKE ANOTHER
STUMBLE by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or
do ANYTHING that CAUSES your brother to STUMBLE (spiritually) or to
offend<or entice to sin Strng: 4624> or to be made [spiritually]
weak/feeble<770> . [NKJV]
***I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause [the sin
of] divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you
have been taught; avoid them. [ESV Romans 16:16-18]
***Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will
never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall. [ 1
Corinthians 8:12-13 NIV]
***Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— [1 Corinthians 10:31-33 NIV]
Rom 14:1 AS FOR the man who is a weak believer, welcome him [into your
fellowship], but not to criticize his opinions or pass judgment on his
scruples or perplex him with discussions. . . . 22 Your personal
convictions [on controversial or potentially offensive
matters]--exercise [them] as in God's presence, keeping them to
yourself [privately and discretely]. Blessed (happy, to be envied) is
he who has no reason to judge himself for what he approves [who does
not condemn himself by the controversial or possibly offensive things
he chooses to do]. 23 But the man who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy
conscience) about eating [or doing what you believe to be controversial
or possibly offensive], and then eats [doing what you believe is
controversial/offensive], stands condemned [before God], because he is
not true to his convictions and he does not act from faith. For
whatever does not originate and proceed from faith is sin [whatever is
done without a conviction of its approval by God is sinful]. 15: 1 WE
WHO are strong [in our convictions and of robust faith] ought to bear
with the failings and the frailties and the tender scruples of the
weak; [exercising our controversial and possibly offensive convictions
as in God's presence, keeping them to yourself privately and
discretely] and not to please ourselves. From AmpBib
The Scriptures make it clear that those who cause others to sin or
become weak in their faith will be dealt with by God. If those who
offend and cause others to sin are His children, He has promised to
chasten/discipline them in Heb 12. In 1 Cor 11 the Spirit showed that
those who humiliate, embarrass and are inconsiderate of other believers
were chastened with weakness, sickness and the bodies of many had died.
***30 This is why many are weak and sick among you, and many have
fallen asleep [in death]. 31 If we were properly evaluating ourselves,
we would not be judged, 32 but when we are judged, we are disciplined
by the Lord, so that we may not be condemned with the world.
On our part, the Spirit shows us in Gal 6:1; 2 Tim 2:24ff; Luke 17:3;
Matt 18:15-18 how we are deal with those who wrong others, who cause
others to sin. We are told to break off fellowship with those who CAUSE
OTHER PEOPLE TO SIN, destroy the work of God in another's life, cause
another to stumble into sin, and spiritually weaken others. For sure a
true Christian should not become engaged to, date or marry such people.
For sure God will deal effectively and uncomfortably with the parent
who introduces her/his child to drugs and/or porn, the woman who CAUSES
A BROTHER TO SIN in lust by enticing him by showing too much of her
breasts etc. or by letting him do maritally intimate things with her
body, with the brother who seduces a woman so that she lets him do sex
sin with her, and/or with the wife or husband who denies her/his
marital partner the due marital intimacy designed by God to help them
avoid sex sin.
Rom 16:17Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause
dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned,
and turn away from them.NASB
2Thess 3:6 But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and
not according to the tradition which he received from us. . . . 13 But
as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good. 14 And if anyone
does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not
keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him
as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
It is never "okay to sin", and for sure it not "okay" to CAUSE OTHER
PEOPLE TO SIN, destroy the work of God in another's life, cause another
to stumble into sin, and spiritually weaken others.
1 John 2:3 This is how we are sure that we have come to know Him: by
continuing to keep His commands. 4 The one who says, "I have come to
know Him," without continuing to keep His commands, is a liar, and
[Jesus] the Truth is not in him. 5 But whoever continues to keep His
Word, truly in him the love of God is perfected. This is how we know
we are in Him: 6 the one who says he remains in Him should continue to
walk just as He walked.
1 John 3:4-14 stated briefly:
4 Everyone who sins breaks the Law [of God]; in fact, sin is
lawlessness. 5 But you know that He [Jesus] appeared so that He might
take away our sins. And in Him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in Him
[deliberately and knowingly] keeps on doing a sin. No one who
[deliberately and knowingly] continues to do a sin has either seen Him
or known Him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that keeps
on doing righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous. 8 He who
[deliberately and knowingly] continues to do a sin is of the devil; for
the devil keeps on sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son
of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9
Whosoever is born of God does not [deliberately and knowingly] continue
to do a sin; for His seed remains in him: and he cannot [deliberately
and knowingly] keep on doing a sin, because he is born of God. 10 In
this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whoever does not keep on doing righteousness is not of God, neither he
who is not loving his brother. . . 14 We know that we have passed from
death to life, because we keep on unselfishly and kindly Loving our
brothers. Anyone who does not continue to unselfishly and kindly Love
remains in death.
A genuine child of God cannot "keep on doing a sin, because he is born
of God" and God will chasten him/her out of the sin (Hebrews 12) with
weakness, sickness or hardships to get him/her to stop sinning, with
the genuine repentance of godly sorrow (1 Cor 11:25-35; 1 Cor 5:3-5; 2
Cor 7). If she/he does not genuinely repent of the sin in godly sorrow
92 Cor 7), the chastening may even mean the death of his/her body (1
Cor 11:25-35; 1 Cor 5:3-5) so that her/his spirit can be saved from
that sin.
The godly in Christ who are not successfully abstaining from sex sin,
in thought or deed, obey this command because Jesus won't let them
continue to sin. Those in Jesus who try to continue on while failing to
consistently abstain from sex sin, choosing not to obey Jesus and
marry, encounter Jesus' discipling and chastening, often in the form of
weakness, sickness or even the sleep of death (1 Cor 5:3-5; 11:30-32;
Heb 12).
Ruth and Boaz - Godly Women Offering Themselves to Godly Men
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Before the godly woman begins to seek the godly man, the godly woman needs to
know how a godly man acts, what he is like. To know what the godly man looks
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But before we go on, let's deal with the sin of "fear of man"
New King James Version Psalm 118:6
The LORD is on my side;I will not fear. What can mankind do to me?
New International Version Prov 29:25
Fear of mankind will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is kept
safe.
Matthew 10 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)28 Don't fear those who kill the
body but are not able to kill the soul; rather, fear Him who is able to destroy
both soul and body in hell.
Godly women who are seeking a godly husband, who are thinking of offering
themselves to godly men for marriage must call on Jesus to free them from the
fear of the men, from the fear of what they may say or do.
Once freed from the snare of the fear of people, of mankind, the godly woman is
ready to proceed like Ruth did with Boaz.
Remember how Ruth offered herself as wife to Boaz, after Naomi did the Titus 2
thing and taught her what to do:
***" 1Then Naomi her mother-in-law said to her, "My daughter, should I not seek
rest for you, that it may be well with you? 2Is not Boaz our relative, with
whose young women you were? See, he is winnowing barley tonight at the threshing
floor. 3 Wash therefore and anoint yourself, and put on your cloak and go down
to the threshing floor, but do not make yourself known to the man until he has
finished eating and drinking. 4But when he lies down, observe the place where he
lies. Then go and uncover his feet and lie down, and he will tell you what to
do." 5And she replied, "All that you say I will do." 6So she went down to the
threshing floor and did just as her mother-in-law had commanded her. 7And when
Boaz had eaten and drunk, and his heart was merry, he went to lie down at the
end of the heap of grain. Then she came softly and uncovered his feet and lay
down. 8At midnight the man was startled and turned over, and behold, a woman lay
at his feet! 9He said, "Who are you?" And she answered, "I am Ruth, your
servant. Spread your wings over your servant, for you are a redeemer." 10And he
said, "May you be blessed by the LORD, my daughter. You have made this last
kindness greater than the first in that you have not gone after young men,
whether poor or rich. 11And now, my daughter, do not fear. I will do for you all
that you ask, for all my fellow townsmen know that you are a worthy woman."ESV
Ruth 3
Please note that Ruth came to Boaz's attention when she was doing the will of God,
carrying for another widow (James 1:27 + Ruth). Remember that Rebekah was found for Issac when she was doing the will of God, giving drink to the thirsty (Mat 25:35-45+Gen 24). I believe the best place for a woman of God to meet a man of God for marriage is to be out and about doing the good works of God, like Ruth and Rebekah. He has called His children to do the good works He ordained in advance for them to do (Eph 2:10; Tts 3:8), and these are some of them:
***to break the bonds and chains of wickedness,
***to untie the restraining ropes of enslaving, oppressive and burdensome restraints;^
***to set the oppressed free,
***to protect foreigners from abuse and harm,
***to unselfishly, patiently, kindly and compassionately love and provide for the needy foreign resident;^
***to try to help and provide justice for the needy, the fatherless, the widow and the helpless;
***to rescue the poor and needy from the hands of the wicked,
***to rescue those wrongfully taken off to be killed, those moving toward slaughter in the womb or outside of it, especially in the matter of abortion;^
***to uphold the rights of the oppressed and the destitute,
***to remove every burdensome and oppressing restraint,
***to share bread with the hungry,
***to give something to drink to the thirsty,
***to provide housing for the poor and homeless,
***to clothe the inadequately clothed when they are encountered,
***to help take care of the sick and imprisoned,
***to see to it that bereft women and children are taken care of,
***to not ignore or neglect one's own familial flesh and blood,
***to rid public gatherings of scornful and accusatory finger-pointing and malicious speaking,
***to offer that with which sustains life to the encountered hungry, and
***to effectively meet the needs of the encountered afflicted^.
~Eph 5:7-11: 2Tim 2:24-26; Gal 6:1; `Mat 29:19,20; Acts 20:25-35; ^ Isaiah 58; Mat 25; James 1:27; Jer 22:16; Deut 24:17; 10:18; Prov 24:11; Psa 10:14; 82:3,4; 146:9; 68:5.
A godly Christian woman will want to marry a godly Christina man. The godly
Christian woman knows she can ask Father for a godly Christian husband and knows
that if it is His will, she will receive him. A frequent problem, even for the
godly Christian woman, is that she might want him to look like a movie star or
model, and want him to be as physically fit as a competitive athlete. They have
yet to call on Jesus to get them to the level of Spiritual development where
they "DO NOT FOCUS ON WHAT IS SEEN," don't "TAKE PRIDE IN OUTWARD APPEARANCE," and don't see people "ACCORDING TO THE FLESH/BODY." They are not yet ready to accept from the Lord, as the answer to their prayer for a godly husband, a godly man who happens to be wheel chair bound, blind, deaf, fat, bald, skinny, unsophisticated, plain, old, young, under educated, relatively poor, has a funny old car, lives
in an old house, lives in an undesirable neighborhood, has crazy or demon
possessed parents, or is called to be a missionary who goes out on faith
trusting Jesus for his provision, or already had a wife but is free in the Lord to marry according to 1 Cor 7:10-15,39.
***"4:18 So we do not focus on what is seen, but on what is unseen; for what is
seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. . . . . 5:12 We are not
commending ourselves to you again, but giving you an opportunity to be proud of
us, so that you may have a reply for those who take pride in the outward
appearance rather than in the heart. . . . 16From now on, therefore, we regard
no one according to the flesh/body. Even though we once regarded Christ
according to the flesh/body, we regard Him thus no longer." HCSB+ESV 2 Cor
Some are not yet ready to accept from the Lord, as the answer to their prayer
for a godly husband, a godly man who happens to be wheel chair bound, blind,
deaf, fat, bald, skinny, unsophisticated,
plain, old, young, under educated, relatively poor, has a funny old car, lives
in an old house, lives in an undesirable neighborhood, has crazy or demon
possessed parents, or is called to be a missionary who goes out on faith
trusting Jesus for his provision, or already had kids by a previous wife.
The godly Christian woman may have already come to the place where they know
that Father hears them, and that they have the right to expect His answer
because they continue to obey Jesus' orders [observe His suggestions and
injunctions, follow His plan for us] and [keep on] practicing what is pleasing
to Jesus; and if they have studied their Bible well, they know what His will is
in many things, and have the confidence that if they ask for anything that is in
agreement with His Will and Plan, they will then see their prayer answered.
***"3:22And we receive from Him whatever we ask, because we [watchfully] obey
His orders [observe His suggestions and injunctions, follow His plan for us] and
[keep on] practicing what is pleasing to Him. 23And this is His order (His
command, His injunction): that we should believe in (put our faith and trust in
and adhere to and rely on) the Name of His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah), and
that we should love one another [unselfishly, patiently and kindly; without envy
or boasting; without being arrogant or rude; without insisting on your own way;
without being irritable or resentful; without rejoicing at wrongdoing, but
rejoicing with the Truth], just as He has commanded us. . . . 5:14And this is
the confidence (the assurance, the privilege of boldness) which we have in Him:
[we are sure] that if we ask anything (make any request) according to His will
(in agreement with His own plan), He listens to and hears us. 15And if (since)
we [positively] know that He listens to us in whatever we ask, we also know
[with settled and absolute knowledge] that we have [granted us as our present
possessions] the requests made of Him." AmpB 1 John
So the godly Christian woman who strongly feels led to serve Jesus as a man's
wife and the mother of children to be raised to His glory, or the godly woman
who has come under command to marry because she fails to keep on abstaining from
sex sin in thought or deed - - - -
***" 2 but because of and to avoid sexual immorality each man should be
[sexually] having his own woman, and each woman should be [sexually] having her
own man. . . . 8To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them
to remain single as I am. 9 But if they do not continue to have self-restraint
[keep on abstaining from sex sin], they should marry, for it is better to marry
than to burn with desire." 1 Cor 7
- - - - - - - knows that she has a legitimate need for marriage, knows that if
she is under God's command to marry she REALLY NEEDS a godlyhusband. Knowing her need she prays for and looks for the godly man who can meet her need of marriage.
***"16By this we come to know (progressively to recognize, to perceive, to
understand) the [God's] Love: that He laid down His [own] life for us; and we
ought to lay [our] lives down for [those who are our] brethren [in Him]. 17But
if anyone has this world's goods (resources for sustaining life) and sees his
brother and fellow believer in need, yet closes his heart of compassion against
him, how can the Love of God live and remain in him? 18Little children, let us
not Love [merely] in theory or in speech but in deed and in truth (in practice
and in sincerity)." 1 John 3 from AmpB
We know from the Word that a godly woman should not date, become engaged to or marry an unsaved person (2 Cor 6:14-7:1; Malachi 2:10-12), or a saint snared in sin (2 Thess 3:6-14; 1 Cor 5:3-5,11) or causing sin (Rom 16:17-18).
So if the godly woman in need sees a godly man who has the ability to meet her
need, without focusing "ON WHAT IS SEEN," not taking "PRIDE IN OUTWARD APPEARANCE," and not seeing him "ACCORDING TO THE FLESH/BODY," then she has the right to let him know her need, and ask him if he would be the one to meet her need. I
believe she should follow Ruth's example, if possible, and seek the advice and
guidance of an older godly woman (Titus 2). I believe she should follow Ruth's
example and personally approach him in a quiet moment when they are alone, to
ask him to meet her need of marriage and offer herself to serve him in his need
of marital intimacy (1Cor7:1-5; Prov 5:18,19), to help him "avoid sexual
immorality", to help him raise "godly offspring."
***"15 But did He not make them one,
Having a remnant of the Spirit?
And why one?
He seeks godly offspring. . . . Mala 2 NKJV
If the man has responded positively to her offer but starts dragging his feet, it may be necessary for her to begin
to show more of her skin. Hopefully she has been preparing herself for the possibility of marriage like Esther and the
Shulamite of Solomon's Song of Solomon so that her skin is well oiled and perfumed, even with nothing else but butter, cinnamon, almond oil, banana oil, and the other flavoring oils that can be found at most supermarkets.
***12 Before a girl's turn came to go in to King Xerxes, she had to complete twelve months of beauty treatments prescribed for the women, six months with oil of myrrh and six with perfumes and cosmetics.Esther 2
The sight of his lady's perfumed legs, arms, shoulders, back etc can fill the man with enough desire that he will marry her and make her his own.
Romans 14:22 Your personal convictions [on sexual matters not specifically dealt
with in the Bible]--exercise [them] as in God's presence, keeping them to
yourself [striving only to know the truth and obey His will]. Blessed (happy, to
be envied) is he who has no reason to judge himself for what he approves [who
does not convict himself by what he chooses to do].
23 But the man who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about
eating [or doing sexual acts not specifically dealt with in the Bible], and then
eats [or does one of those sexual acts], stands condemned [before God], because
he is not true to his convictions and he does not act from faith. For whatever
does not originate and proceed from faith is sin [whatever is done without a
conviction of its approval by God is sinful].
15:1 Now we who are strong have an obligation to bear the weaknesses of those
without strength, and not to please ourselves. 2 Each one of us must please his
neighbor for his good, in order to build him up. 3 For even the Messiah did not
please Himself. On the contrary, as it is written, The insults of those who
insult You have fallen on Me. 4 For whatever was written before was written for
our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the encouragement of
the Scriptures we may have hope. 5 Now may the God of endurance and
encouragement grant you agreement with one another, according to Christ Jesus, 6
so that you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ with a
united mind and voice.
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It seems to me that today's application in the context of the Scriptures below in the Western world today is that if you believe it is acceptable to partake of toplessness with likeminded people, you would do so after making sure they are likeminded, but if you knew that a Christian believed heterosexual toplessness is wrong outside of one's own marriage, then you would neither partake of toplessness in a way that the Christian would know about it, and you would not discuss what you personally do or believe about heterosexual toplessness with such a Christian. The Scriptures on the matter would be discussed, but not one's own personal opinion of the matter (Romans 14:1; 15:1-3.
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION:***1Cor 8: 8 It is true that a particular kind of [clothing style] will not bring us into God’s presence; we are neither inferior to others if we abstain from [toplessness], nor superior to them if we [practice] it. 9 But take care lest this liberty of yours should prove a hindrance to the progress of weak believers. 10 For if any one were to see you, who knows of this matter, [practicing toplessness], would not his conscience (supposing him to be a weak believer) be emboldened to [view topless women as well but with doubts]? 11 Why, your knowledge becomes the ruin of the weak believer--your brother, for whom Christ died! 12 Moreover when you thus sin against the brethren and wound their weak consciences, you are, in reality, sinning against Christ. 13 Therefore if [my toplessness] causes my brother to fall, never again to the end of my days will I [be topless around my weaker brothers], for fear I should cause my brother to fall. [Derived from 1 Cor 8:8-13]
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION:1 Cor 10:27 But if any one [including unbelievers] invite you [to a topless event], and you are minded to go, [partake of the toplessness] that is set before you, making no inquiry [about what others think of it] for conscience sake. 28* But if any one say to you, "[This is sinful, evil and offensive!", Do not [partake of the toplessness], for his/her sake that pointed it out, and conscience sake. 29* But conscience, I mean, not your own, but that of the other [who declared the toplessness to be evil and offensive]. For why is my liberty [to be topless] judged by another conscience? 30* If *I* partake [of toplessness] with thanksgiving, why am I spoken evil of for what *I* give thanks for? 31 Whether therefore you eat, or drink, or whatever [toplessness] you do, do all things to God’s glory. 32 Give no occasion to stumbling, whether to Jews, or Greeks, or the assembly of God.
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION: Rom 14:1 Do not receive him that is weak in the faith for the purpose of distinguishing, discerning, and judging deliberation, or questioning about what is true [about toplessness], a questioning that involves hesitation, doubting, disputing or arguing [about toplessness]. . . . 20 For the sake of [toplessness] do not destroy the work of God [in the life of another]. All things [including toplessness] indeed are pure; but it is evil to that one who [partakes of toplessness] while stumbling [in sin] because of her/his doubts about its rightness. 21 It is right not to [be topless], nor [wear G string bikinis], nor do anything [like posing nude while discretely covering one’s genitals with something opaque] in which thy brother [or sister] stumbles [violating one's conscience and so inducing one to sin by acting in doubt], or is offended [ or stumbles or is enticed to act without faith or think sinfully, unfavourably or unjustly of another], or is made weak [morally feeble, without strength, spiritually powerless]. 22 Have you faith [to believe toplessness is right and so practice it]? Have that conviction to yourself [privately, personally and/or discretely with likeminded others] before God. Blessed is the one who does not judge oneself in what [belief or practice of toplessness] one allows [himself with a firm and convinced faith in its rightness before God]. 23 But one that doubts [about the rightness of toplessness], if [that] one [partakes of toplessness], [that one] is condemned; because that one [partook of toplessness] not because of faith [in its rightness]; but whatever [topless behavior or thought does not originate from] faith [in its rightness before God] is sin.
Sex and Hell - consider sex issues in the light of the Bible
Is it important and worth while to consider sex issues in the light of the Bible today?
If one values one's life and future, one will take seriously what God says about sex.
***1 Cor 6: 9 ¶ Do you not know that unrighteous persons shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither sex sinners [Ezek23], . . . nor those who have sex with another's woman &/or those who leave their wives and marry another, . . nor male catamites &/or prostitutes who allow themselves to be homosexually used , nor homosexuals, nor pederasts , 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor abusive persons, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21:8 But the . . . detestably vile, . . . sexually immoral, . . . —their share/portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.
Hell Fire and Eternal Torment
Why did the God who is patient and kind Love
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Our God has NO PLEASURE in the death of the wicked.
***Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Abba Father does not get his jollies by barbecuing sinners or eternity. Hell is a function of the nature of God and suffering in Hell in a matter of incompatability.
Our God is a holy consuming fire:
***De 4:24 For Jehovah thy God is a consuming fire, a jealous *God.
***De 9:3 Know then this day, that Jehovah thy God is he that goeth over before thee, a consuming fire; he will destroy them, and he will cast them down before thee,
***Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling hath surprised the hypocrites: Who among us shall dwell with the consuming fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting flames?
***Heb 12:29 For also our God is a consuming fire.
What happens when you put "gold, silver, precious stones" in the fire? They remain gold, silver and precious stones.
When Shedrack and Meshack and Abednego were in the fire with Jesus they remained who and as they were because Jesus, by their faith in Him as Jehovah-Jesus, had made them compatible with the fire and His fire did them no harm.
What happens when you put wood, hay, grass, stubble and straw in the fire? They are consumed.
The guards who threw Shedrack and Co. in the fire suffered death by the fire because Jesus had not made them compatible with Himself, because they hadn't been made compatible by faith in Jehovah-Jesus.
***1 Cor 3: 11 ¶ For other foundation can no man lay besides that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any one build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw, 13 the work of each shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire shall try the work of each what it is. 14 If the work of any one which he has built upon the foundation shall abide, he shall receive a reward. 15 If the work of any one shall be consumed, he shall suffer loss, but *he* shall be saved, but so as through the fire.
***1Pe 1:7* that the proving of your faith, much more precious than of gold which perishes, though it be proved by fire, be found to praise and glory and honour in the revelation of Jesus Christ:
The fire that touched Isaiah's lips did not hurt him but purged and cleansed him.
***Isaiah 6: 6 And one of the seraphim flew unto me, and he had in his hand a glowing coal, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar; 7 and he made it touch my mouth, and said, Behold, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin expiated.
The earth shall be purged and cleansed by His fire
***2Pe 3:7 But the present heavens and the earth by his word are laid up in store, kept for fire unto a day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. . . . 12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements, burning with heat, shall melt?
Hell and the Lake of Fire is not made for Father and His angels to get their jollies watching a sinners barbecue. Hell and the Lake of Fire causes the death (lack of sinful activity) of sinners and continuously causes the dissolving and burning destruction of the sin of the sinners. At the very least, the torment of Hell for the sinner is being prevented from doing the sins they want to do, and the continuing destruction of all the sin they will and desire to do. Can you imagine forever knowing what you love, long and want to do and never being able to do what you love, long for or want? That is torment. Suffering that kind of torment for ages is Hell.
The rash of murder suicides surely has resulted in the murderers being very surprised that their death wasn't the end of their conscious existence.
*** 1. 1 John 3:15 "Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him."
***Revelation 21:8 "But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars—their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
Such murderers have an eternity of wanting to do evil but never being allowed to do it, anger and frustration at not being able to change or improve their situation of torment.
Their victims suffered briefly as the murderers killed them, but for the murderers "is reserved the blackness of darkness forever!" [Jude 1]
What a fate, the blackness of darkness in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur!!!!
Hard to believe that Hell could be a place of fiery darkness? It was hard for me to understand until I saw a Natural Geographic video about underwater volcanoes, where it showed flaming lava glowing brightly in total darkness thousands of feet below the surface of the ocean. There it was, fiery darkness, with all that one would expect of fire and darkness. The darkness was so thick that all one could see was the fiery lava. Not a good place to be.
Hell is a place of fiery darkness in which is contained, isolated and neutralized total falsehood, hatred, selfishness, chaos, confusion, disorder, unending misery, frustration, malice, envy, jealousy, murderous intent, strife, deceit, treachery, ill will, cruelty, backbiting, gossip, slander, hatefulness, insolence, arrogance, stupid boasting; disobedience, and disrespect, where peopleexist without understanding, consciences, faithfulness and areheartless, loveless and merciless.
Rom 1
***Matthew 8:12 But the [unbelieving] sons of the kingdom [of Israel] will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. . . . 25:30 And throw this unprofitable slave into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
***Luke 13:28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in that place, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but yourselves thrown out [into the outer darkness].
***Revelation 16: 10And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
***Jude 1: 12 These [people] are spots in your love-feasts, feasting together [with you] without fear, pasturing themselves; clouds without water, carried along by [the] winds; autumnal trees, without fruit, twice dead, rooted up; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shames; wandering stars, to whom has been reserved the gloomy blackness of darkness for eternity.
After a close examination of the data available in www land about the "after death" experiences of people who have been medically certified as dead - - no brain waves, no heart beat, no blood pressure, no breathing - - most objective observers would come to the conclusion that the death of one's body does not end one's existence. Based on such data and the many supernatural miracles in my own life, I believe Jesus that there is a Heaven, for those who want be with Jesus in His Kingdom, and Hell, for those who don't want His kindly compassionate Love, enlightening LIght, liberating Truth, everlasting Life and wonderful Way.
What a tragedy to try to escape one's problems in this world only to land up for thousands of years in a place devoid of kindness, compassion, Love, enlightenment, Light, Truth and purposeful living - - - a place of unending misery, frustration, malice, envy, jealousy, murderous intent, strife, deceit, treachery, ill will, cruelty, backbiting, gossip, slander, hatefulness, insolence, arrogance, stupid boasting; disobedience, and disrespect where people exist without understanding, consciences, faithfulness and are heartless, loveless and merciless. What a horrible surprise for those who do great evil and/or kill others, and then kill themselves, only to find themselves in such a Hell for ages.
Jesus enlightens every human being that comes into this world (John 1:9) and gives everyone in the world the opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11), Loved all people enough to let them torture His body to death to take the death penalty for all and all their incompatability with God so that anyone who so wills can Live with Him forever, and He respects our choices even though He has no pleasure in the suffering of those who reject Him.
Eternal torment? Sadhu Sundar Singh is the only godly and Spirit filled man I ever knew who believed that the "forever" of Hell was that Hell would last until the "age of the ages"
***Re 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon = from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity].
***Re 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon].
Apparently to him the age of the ages was the time when "all things shall be subdued unto Him" with the idea that after thousands of years of Hell's fiery darkness, even the devil, the demons and all in Hell would willingly be brought into submission and obedience to God -----------------
***1 Cor 15: 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all [other] rule and all [other] authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28* And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
-------------------------- a time when Jesus had "put all enemies under his feet" and the Son Himself is subject to Father. The problem I have with that idea is that Jesus has always been voluntarily "subject unto Him that put all things under Him
The problem with that meaning is that it would have Jesus living only from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, at which time He would allegedly cease to be a Being separate and distinct from Father.
***Re 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
***Re 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
***Re 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven,
That meaning would have glory being given to Father from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, at which time He would allegedly cease to be glorified, unless it is understood that in the forever age He is forever be glorified.
***Php 4:20 Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever [from the ages to the ages, from the eternities to the eternities]. Amen.
***1Ch 29:10 Wherefore David blessed the LORD before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, LORD God of Israel our father, for ever and ever.
According to Singh's view, God would be our God only to the age of the ages. . .
***Ps 48:14 For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.
. . . and that Jehovah-Jesus would only reign to the age of the ages.
***Ex 15:18 The LORD shall reign for ever and ever.
I believe a better understanding of that passage would be that TO THE AGE OF THE AGES signifies UNTIL THE FOREVER AGE, or to the culminating and final AGE OF THE AGES, which I would understand to be when "the Son also Himself [shall] be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all." In that final forever age, God would be all in all forever. Our God is ETERNAL, the Spirit is ETERNAL, our King is ETERNAL and His power and Godhead is ETERNAL.
***De 33:27 The eternal God is thy refuge, . . .
***Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
***1Ti 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
***Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: . ."
So "eis tous aionas ton aionon", from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, would indicate that our God is the God of the forever eternal age when He will be "all in all." What does that mean? I don't believe a human's finite mind can come any where close to understanding that.
The Most High God loved the people of the world so very much that He sent and gave His only Son born of a woman, God with us, to be our Passover Lamb to cover and bear the penalty of our sins if we sincerely and genuinely call and depend on King Jesus of Bethlehem ALONE to save us from our sins and present us covered with His perfect righteousness to Abba Father in Heaven.
The Bible gives at least 22 reasons why He allows the suffering experienced in this world. But before we get to them, we must deal with the One we feel is responsible for the suffering in this world. The God who the Most High God in our universe characterizes Himself as Father and Love, the Love described in 1 Cor 13. That means the One who has allowed your suffering, the suffering you are concerned about, the One who controls the extent of the suffering, is One who is characterized by longsuffering, patience, kindness; who is free of envy, evil jealousy, vain boasting, vainglory, haughtiness, conceit, evil pride, rudeness, and selfishness. He is not touchy or fretful or resentful; does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail, and bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, hopes under all circumstances, endures everything [without weakening], and never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. He has promised that He will work all things together for the good of those who obediently love Him and are called according to [His] design and purpose. Any suffering He allows His children to endure is under His control for the good of His Children.
According to Eph. 1:11 everything is under His control because He works EVERYTHING according to His own will. The world is never out of control. Even though Satan is allowed to be ruler of this world, and he and his demonic angels work and will in people to do the evil they want to do, the book of Job shows us that Satan can't do anything to God's people without God's permission. You may ask, "Why does Jesus let Satan do evil things and work in people to do evil?" How would you feel if your mom said not to taste the desert she just made, and you tried to disobey her but everytime you tried you couldn't move?
How would you feel if your buddy hit you too hard, and every time you tried to hit her back, you froze? How would you feel if some little kid cussed you out, trash talked you and ridiculed you in public in front of your best friends, and ever time you tried to say something hard back or do something to the kid you froze? How would you feel if someone you thought was your friend ruined your best coat and then stole money out of your wallet, thinking you wouldn't see, and you tried to get even but when you tried to do something to your buddy, you became paralyzed?
You wouldn't like that kind of world, where you couldn't do the bad things you want to do. You would feel like a prisoner, or like you were tied up. Jesus made this world so you could choose to not do His will, and choose to do the bad things you want to do, or if you wanted to, you could choose to obey Jesus because you Love Him. This world is made so that you can choose between doing the good and doing the evil, because He doesn't want robots or slaves. He wants people to choose Him because they Love Him. In the meantime, dads will choose to do evil to their daughters, Hitler chose to have killed 20 million people, Stalin chose to have killed 30 million and Mao chose to have killed over 50 million. American mothers have chosen to kill by abortion over 40 million babies since 1960. The beauty is that He has promised that every human being who comes into the world will be enlightened by Jesus before they die (Jn 1:9), even if they haven't been born yet. So everyone has a chance to choose Jesus before they die. He gives us all the opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11).
Dear friend, please remember the point about 1 Cor. 10:13*, He doesn't allow you to be tried more than you can bear, because you are stronger, have a better understanding of spiritual warfare and a deeper faith, the trials will be greater--but never more than you can bear. Consider the trials of John the Baptist and all the apostles except John. They all died violent deaths at the hands of those who hate them, but never more than they could bear. [1 Cor. 10: 12 So let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has taken you but [what is] common to man; but God [is] faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear [it].]
An exercise is no exercise if it doesn't challenge you at the point where you have to strain and go aerobic, sometimes painfully. The same with "spiritual" muscles, the trial has to produce stress, strain and even pain for you to become stronger, more capable, more useful and fruitful. The fruitful vine looks terrible when it is pruned, and it would feel terrible if it could feel, but because it is pruned it has the potential of being more fruitful, and I know you want more fruit of the Spirit in your life. I know that you want to compassionately cherish God and others even more than you do now, and that's how you get there.
This life is boot camp and a war, which, thank God, is shortened for our sakes. Our resurrected life with Jesus Christ is worth the struggle. All of our experiences in this mortal life can be used of God to prepare us to help, comfort, teach, encourage, edify etc others better when we are given the opportunity to be his delegated agents on earth as he rules from Jerusalem in fulfillment of His promises to King David. To rule the earth with Him enthroned in Jerusalem for a 1000 years (Rev. 20: 2-7), to walk around as His agents enabled to raise the dead, open the eyes of the blind, to bind up the broken limbs and hearts, to counsel the broken hearted with wisdom inspired of God, to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to free the captives, to teach in power the lost how they can be found etc etc etc etc. I can hardly wait!
If you have suffered maritally, please consider attending a Christian divorce/grief recovery support group. You are still deeply grieving inside over your ex and those "saints" that so deeply and carnally broke your heart. I know that I desperately needed and greatly benefited from the free one I attended at Del Cerro So. Bapt. Church. It was critical in my recovery and in my readiness to be healed and in my learning how and where I needed to grow, to forgive my ex, and to prepare my heart for my next. Many churches and ministries have free support groups that are usually extremely helpful. Please call around for times and places and pray about attending and let the Lord minister to you through the saints. But why does He allow us to suffer, to grieve so deeply and have hearts so broken than you can feel the pain throughout your chest, so depressed that it seems a struggle to survive, grief so deep that you never know what will cause the tears to flow next? Here are some that I have become aware of and they are all for our good. Please consider them and, in each, ask if its goal was accomplished in your life.
We know how the Most High Father let Jesus' body be tortured to death to die in our place for our sins, because of our sins, so that He could be both Just in punishing sin, and Merciful in offering us forgiveness on the basis of relying on Jesus substitutionary and sacrificial death for us. The Spirit tells us that Jesus suffered much for us in His human body so that He would learn, like we have to, that it is best to obey (Heb 5:8,9).
God, The Father, the Consuming Fire, the Most High God sent His only Son born of woman to bear our death penalty, allowing Him to suffer terribly. For about 19 hours the Father allowed His Son to be falsely accused, unjustly tried, verbally abused, physically abused, spit upon, beaten, slapped, punched, slugged, tied up, led away as a prisoner, imprisoned, mocked, ridiculed, flogged Roman style with a whip made of leather strips embedded with pieces of bone or metal that brutally tore His flesh, and stripped in public (Mat 26:6-27:31). His hands and feet were nailed to a cross and for about three to six hours He was hung on a cross publicly to die a slow and exceedingly painful death, every second filled with misery suffering (Mat 27).
***1 Peter 2:19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “ Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;
23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed. 25 For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. NKJV
***Heb 9: 26 . . . "But now He has appeared one time, at the end of the ages, for the removal of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for people to die once—and after this, judgment — 28 so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him. HCSB
All of the Apostles except John died violent deaths at the hands of persecutors, and they tried to kill John but he was miraculously spared to write Revelation. The Most High Father allowed Paul to suffer terribly and Jesus gave him part of the reason, to save him from pride (2 Cor 12), teaching Him that He makes His strength perfect in our weakness, so that the credit and glory goes to the right person, to Jesus who was living in Paul and in lives in all His children. Jesus allowed Paul to suffer in - - - -
"imprisonments, [beaten] with countless stripes, and frequently [at the point of] death. 24 Five times I received from [the hands of] the Jews forty [lashes all] but one; 25 Three times I have been beaten with rods; once I was stoned. Three times I have been aboard a ship wrecked at sea; a [whole] night and a day I have spent [adrift] on the deep; 26 Many times on journeys, [exposed to] perils from rivers, perils from bandits, perils from [my own] nation, perils from the Gentiles, perils in the city, perils in the desert places, perils in the sea, perils from those posing as believers [but destitute of Christian knowledge and piety]; 27 In toil and hardship, watching often [through sleepless nights], in hunger and thirst, frequently driven to fasting by want, in cold and exposure and lack of clothing." 2 Cor 11
Jesus and the apostles made it clear that significant suffering lies in the path of anyone who becomes a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ alone to be saved from the power, presence and penalty of sin.
***" Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."(2 Timothy 3:11-13)
***Luke 6:22 "Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake. . . . 21:17 "And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake." ***John 15:19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
So how have the children of God suffered in the past according to the Bible and Fox's Book of Martyrs? Is it like their suffering today?
***Heb 11: . . . 24 By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26 esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible. . . . (NKJV) Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and severely painful whippings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us. . . . 13All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14For those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own. 15And indeed if they had been thinking of that country from which they went out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has prepared a city for them. NASB
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Godly Vs. Ungodly Sex - CORRECTED, EXPANDED AND IMPROVED
Copyright 6/23/'06; Revised 11/14/07; 5/15/08; 9/11/08; 03/23/09
This is a text for unedited and unchanged distribution on the net and
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by Lee Tyler, P.O.Box 620763, San Diego,
CA 92162-0763; getting2knoya@gmail.com;
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION
[1]. A single woman touching/doing the genital of a man . . .
[2]. A single woman receiving the penis of a man in her mouth . . .
[3.] A single woman receiving a penis in her anus . . .
[4.] A single woman letting a man touch his penis to her skin . . .
[5.] If a man imagines and/or thinks about doing any of the sex sins above . . .
[6.] If a man imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a woman's skin . . .
[7.] If a woman imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a man's skin . . .
[8.] The act of sexually stimulating oneself to to orgasm, . . .
[9.] As far as I know, it is a Romans 14 issue if a single woman has the doubt-free
faith/belief that it is acceptable to . . .
[10.] Touching a woman's breasts &/or nipples, lesbianism, seeing a woman's
hairy genitals . . .
[11.] embracing, handling, pressing, using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman - - - -
[12.] Laying bare, uncovering, and/or exposing the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris
of a woman - - -
[13.] Oral sex when single or with a single woman - - -
[14.] MORE THOUGHTS ON ORAL AND ANAL SEX
15.] DOING UNGODLY SEXUAL THINGS TO A PERSON
[16] Thinking of doing sex with a cartoon/animation image - - -
[17] Types of marriage in the Bible
[18.] Important terms, words and concepts dealing with sexual morality - - - -
[19.] Homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism
[20.] THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE SEX COIN
INTRODUCTION
To understand what Jesus Word tells us today about godly sex and ungodly
sex we need to see what He told us about sex in the Old Testament, the
Old Covenant and the Law He gave to Moses. God began to reveal His
moral code in the Old Testament, especially to Moses, so we have to look at
it to see what the Bible says about sex. It is clearly understood that Gentiles,
those who are not Jews, not descendants of Israel or or those who
covenanted with Jesus-Jehovah at Sinai - - that such people are no longer
required by Jesus-Jehovah to keep, observe and obey the Old Testament
Law. But it is clear that when Jesus used the terms fornication, i.e. sex sin
including adultery, homosexuality, incest and all sexual relations between
two people who are not joined together by God in marriage
- - He did not change the Old Testament definition of sex sin. When the
Spirit led the Apostles in Acts 15 and 21 to declare to be free from OT
Law observance all who are not descendants of the Sinai covenanters,
Israel and the mixed multitude, He did not change the Old Testament definition
of sex sin when He led the Apostles to declare - - -
++++25* But concerning those of the nations who have believed, we have
written, deciding that they should observe no such thing, only to keep
themselves both from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from
things strangled, and from fornication.? Acts 21
So we who are under the New Covenant, the Law of Christ, are expected
by God to keep ourselves from what the OT Law declares to be sex sin.
While the definitions came into the Church age unchanged, the social
and legal consequences of sex sin under OT Law did not remain unchanged.
Israel today and no other country on earth observes and/or enforces the OT
Law's social and legal consequences of sex sin. So let?s consider how the
OT Law defines the sex sin from which we are to carefully and diligently abstain.
A key word in this consideration is Strong's 07901 shakab {shaw-kab'}; v
Qal: to lie, lie down, lie on, to lie (of sexual relations, relating to another
by means of a sex organ)
***Lev 18:22 And thou shalt not have genital contact<07901> with mankind
as one has genital contact with a woman: it is an abomination. 23 And thou
shalt have genital contact<07901> with no beast to become unclean [by genital
fluids] therewith; and a woman shall not stand before a beast to have genital
contact <07901> with it: it is confusion.
So any genital contact between two people of the same sex and/or
anyone having genital contact with animals represents sin and is not fit for a
follower of Christ to do, see or think about (Phil 4:8) or enjoy (Rom 1:32)
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman
married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that had
genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put
away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an
husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with her; . . .
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
The 3rd Century B.C. Jewish translators who gave us the Septuagint
rendered "Shakab" in the Greek as "Koitayn". Koitayn is rendered by
Lexigraphers Strong and Thayer as "cohabitation, . . . sexual intercourse."
Sexual intercourse is communicating with another by means of a sex organ.
Harper's Analytical Greek Lexicon agrees. Lexigraphers Arndt & Gingrich go
even further rendering it as "sexual intercourse, . . . seminal emission
(Num 5:20 . . . Lev 15:16f, 32; 18:20; 22:4 . . .)." This is the Greek word used
in Heb 13:4 of marital sex in the marriage bed. To have sexual intercourse with
someone is to be communicating and/or interacting with someone by means of a sex
organ (penis, pudenda, vulva, clitoris, vagina). If a person does not
realize that there is communication and interaction when the penis of a
man touches the skin of a woman, that person doesn't know sex.
Nonverbal communication is as significant as verbal communication and
powerful and effective nonverbal communication is the penis of a man
touching the skin or mucous membrane of a woman, or the
clitoris/labia/pudenda/vulva/vagina of a woman touching the skin or
mucous membrane of a man, or the breast/nipple of a woman of a woman
touching the skin or mucous membrane of a man. Only the ignorant fail
to realize the reality of the nonverbal communication between the man
and the woman that takes place when the penis of a man is inside the
body of a woman or touches the skin of a woman.
Body fluids make one defiled or unclean under the Law. A woman who has
contact with the penis fluids of a man who is not her own man maritally
has been "defiled" sexually, and is fornication since a woman, under
the Law should be defiled by penis fluids only by her own man. See Gen
34:5,13,27; Deut 22:20-30.
From the Holy Spirit's use of <07901> above I understand the following:
[1]. A single woman touching/doing the genital of a man is a single woman
relating to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901
shakab or Koitayn> behavior.
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman
married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that
had genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou
put away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an
husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with
her; . . . 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
If her relating to the man by his genital (anally, orally or manually)
was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the
man's sexual activity,it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor
6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim
2:22. Such sin should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "19 . . . I want you
to do what is good and to avoid what is evil." Rm 16 GW
[2.] A single woman receiving the penis of a man in her mouth is a single woman relating
to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior.
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman married
to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that had genital
contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from
Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband,
and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with her; . . .
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his
wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
If her relating to the man by his genital orally was voluntary and she did not cry
out for someone to rescue her from the man's sexual activity, it was sex sin
(Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told
to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 Rm 16:9 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such
sex should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "27 Avoid evil, do good, and
live forever." GW
[3.] A single woman receiving a penis in her anus is a single woman relating to a
man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior.
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman
married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that
had genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou
put away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an
husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with
her; . . . 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
If her relating to the man by his genital anally was voluntary and she did not cry
out for someone to rescue her from the man's sexual activity, it was sex sin
(Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told
to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such sex sin should be avoided
by disciples of Jesus Christ. "3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you
abstain from sexual immorality; 4that each one of you know how to control his own
body in holiness and honor, 5not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not
know God;" 1 Th 4
[4.] A single woman letting a man touch his penis to her skin (feet, legs, thighs,
buttocks, buns, stomach, back, hand, arm, arm pit, neck, face and/or mouth) is a
single woman relating by her skin to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is
<07901 shakab> behavior. If her relating to the man by his genital and her skin
was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the man's
sexual activity, it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the
sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such sex
sin should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "22 Abstain from every form of
evil." 1 Th 5 ESV
[5.] If a man imagines and/or thinks about doing any of the sex sins above with a
single woman, it is <07901 shakab> behavior, it is sex sin (Mat 5;28; Deut 22:23-29;
Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid and flee
from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such sex sin should be avoided by disciples of
Jesus Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should
abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
[6.] If a man imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a
woman's skin other than her privates (pudenda, vagina, clitoris, vulva,
labia, anus, breasts, nipples) with any part of his body than his penis and/or
scrotum, it is not specifically or explicitly declared to be sin in the Bible,
as far as I know, and comes under the principles of Romans 14. So as
far as I know, it is a Romans 14 matter for a man to imagine, think
about or actually use his hands or feet to massage a single woman's
feet, legs, thighs, buns, stomach, back, neck, hands, arms and/or face. The husband
has sexual authority over the body of his wife (1 Cor 7:3,4), so any
other man should get permission from him before he imagines, thinks about or actually
touches those nonsexual parts of another man's woman.
[7.] If a woman imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of
a man's skin other than his penis and/or scrotum with any part of her
body other than her her privates (pudenda, vagina, clitoris, vulva, labia, anus,
breasts, nipples), it is not specifically or explicitly declared to be sin in
the Bible, as far as I know, and comes under the principles of Romans
14. So as far as I know, it is a Romans 14 matter for a single woman to
imagine, think about or actually let a man use his hands/feet to
massage her feet,
legs, thighs, buns, stomach, back, neck, hands, arms and/or face. The
husband has sexual authority over the body of his wife (1 Cor 7:3,4),
so any other man should get permission form him before she lets another
man imagine, think about or actually touch those parts of hers; and she
needs to get her own man's permission before she lets another man
imagine, think about or actually touch her nonsexual parts.
[8.] The act of sexually stimulating oneself to to orgasm, without
physical contact with another, is no where in the Bible declared
specifically, explicitly or clearly to be sin, as long as one does not
think sexually sinful thoughts, does not think of or imagine doing sex
sin while stimulating oneself. Self-stimulation that doesn't involve thoughts
of actions that are
specifically, explicitly and clearly declared to be sin by God, such
self-stimulation becomes a matter of Romans 14. As far as I know, if a
man has the doubt-free faith/belief that it is acceptable to God to
self-stimulate to orgasm while thinking about kissing, licking and/or
manually touching a single woman's feet, legs, thighs, buns, back,
stomach, neck, hands, arms and/or face - while and after having
massaged those body parts with olive oil and honey, it is a Romans 14
issue and he should have such faith/belief and/or practice privately,
discretely and secretly before God according to Romans 14:22-23, being
very careful to not discuss,debate or argue about doing it (Rom 14:1; 2 Tim 2:22-24)..
[9.] As far as I know, it is a Romans 14 issue if a single woman has the doubt-free
faith/belief that it is acceptable to God to self-stimulate to orgasm while thinking
about a man kissing, licking and/or manually touching her feet, legs, thighs,
buns, back, stomach, neck, hands, arms and/or face; and she should have such
faith/belief and/or practice privately, discretely and
secretly before God according to Romans 14:22, being very careful to not discuss,
debate or argue about doing it (Rom 14:1; 2 Tim 2:22-24).
[10.] Touching a woman's breasts &/or nipples, lesbianism, seeing a woman's
hairy genitals . . .
From Ezek 23 we learn more about sex sin in the following
amplified (using Strong?s Lexicon) paraphrase:
'Son of man, there were two women, daughters of one mother. 3 And they
committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their youth:
there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and pressed and
there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their virginity. .
. . 8 Neither left she her SEX SINS brought from Egypt; for in her youth they had
genital contact with her, and had handled, pressed, and squeezed the breasts
and nipples of her virginity, and poured their sex sin upon her. . . 10 These laid
bare and made known her pudenda and vagina, . . . and they executed
judgment upon her. . . . . . 17 And the children of Babylon came to
her in the genital contact of lovemaking, and their sexual
emissions defiled her with their SEX SIN; she shared her sexual
emissions with them , and her soul was alienated from them. . . 18 And
she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and made known
her pudenda and vagina; and my soul was alienated from her, like as my
soul was alienated from her sister. . . . 20* and she desired to do evil with
their female lovers, whose [sexual] flesh is as the [sexual] flesh of
asses, and whose [sexual] issue is as the [sexual] issue of horses. 21
And you remembered the [sexually] loose ways of your early years, in
the handling and using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians,
for the [desire of your] breasts of your youth. . . . Behold, I will
raise up your lovers against you, from whom your soul is alienated, and
I will bring them against you on every side. 23 . . all of them
attractive young men, governors and rulers, great lords and renowned,
all of them riding upon horses. 24 And they shall come against you . .
. and I will put judgment before them, and they shall judge you
according to their judgments. 25 And I will set my jealousy against
you, and they shall deal furiously with you: they shall cut off your
nose and your ears, and your remnant shall fall by the sword; they
shall take your sons and your daughters; and your residue shall be
devoured by the fire. 26 They shall also strip you of your garments,
and take away your fair jewels. [Ezek 23]
The sex sins described above should be avoided by disciples of
Jesus Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that
they should abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
[11.] embracing, handling, pressing, using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman - - - -
Couple Ezek 23 - - -
3* And they committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their
youth: there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and pressed
and there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their
virginity. . . 8* Neither left she her SEX SINS brou ght from Egypt;
for in her youth they had genital contat with her, and had handled,
pressed, and squeezed the breasts and nipples of her virginity, and
poured their sex sin upon her. . . 21 And she made the memory of the
loose ways of her early years come back to mind, in the handling and
using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians, for the [desire of
your] breasts of your youth.
- - - - with Prov 5 - - - - -
Prov 5:19,20 [with Strong's references] And why will you, my son, be ravished
<07686> (8799) with an immoral woman estranged [from God and His
people]<02114> (8801), and embrace <02263> (8762) the bosom <02436> of
one who is an alien [to God and His people] <05237>?
- - - - the understanding I have is that embracing, handling, pressing,
using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman who is not your own woman
maritally - - - whether or not the breats/nipples be clothed or bare -
- - - is sex sin.
The sex sins described above should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "25 . .
. we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain
from . . . sexual immorality." Acts 21 ESV
[12.] Laying bare, uncovering, and/or exposing the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris of a woman - - -
> Ezek 23 makes it clear that it is sex sin to lay bare, uncover,
and/or expose the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris of a woman who is
not your own marital partner
"18* And she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and
made known her pudenda and vagina; and my soul was alienated from her,
like as my soul was alienated from her sister."
A woman laying bare and publicly exposing her pudenda/vagina/labia/anus
should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ.
"18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside
he body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body." 1Cor ESV
[13.] Oral sex when single or with a single woman - - -
>The nonJewish Christian might be tempted to use 1 Tim 4:1-4 to
rationalize doing oral sex when single or with a single woman. The
error in that is that it is essential to realize that "fornication,
sexual immorality, sex sin" at the time of Acts 14, before the
nonJewish Christians were released from most of the Sinai Law in Acts
15 and 21:15-26 - - - is the same sin after Acts 15 and 21 for Jewish
Christians. This means nonJews/Gentiles have to carefully observe the
principles given in Rom 14, 1 Cor 8 and 10 in their fellowship with
Jewish Christians who are still observing the Sinai Law. For a proper
understanding of the Word on "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin"
when the Spirit led the Apostles in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26, it has
to be observed that the Spirit did not move the Apostles to change the
definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin". Just as Jesus
did not change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex
sin" when He first spoke of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin"
in Mat 5:32; 19:9; the Apostles - inspired by the Spirit - in the same
way did not change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality,
sex sin" when they instructed the nonJewish Christians to avoid
"fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26.
Oral sex and anal sex were sin for Jewish Christians because of the
Sinai Laws of sex and uncleanness that both Jesus and the Apostles
observed (Mat 23:3; Acts 21:24, 25, 26) the same Sinai Laws about
"fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" that the Spirit imposed on
the nonJewish Christians when they told them to abstain from
"fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26.
Oral sex and anal sex were sin for Jewish Christians during Acts 14,
and they continued to be sin after Acts 15. That at least means that
nonJewish/Gentile Christians must be careful to observe Romans 14; 1
Cor 8 and 1 Cor 10 as to oral and anal sex when relating to Jewish
believers.
Consider the principle of Romans 14 re Gentile sexual relations (paraphrased
in [brackets] for application and clarity):
Rom 14:1 Now accept the one who weak in faith, but not for passing judgment
on or disputing his opinions/doubts. . . . 16 Let not then your [conviction that
oral sex is] good be evil spoken of; 17 for the kingdom of God is not [oral sex]
and [self-stimulation], but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
18 For one that in this [controversy about oral sex] serves the Christ is
acceptable to God and approved of men. 19 So then let us pursue the things
which tend to peace, and things whereby one shall build up another. 20 For
the sake of [oral sex] do not destroy the work of God. All things [including oral
sex] indeed are pure; but it is evil to that one who [does oral sex] while
stumbling [in sin] because of his/her doubts about its rightness. 21 It is right not
to [do oral sex], nor [not do oral sex], nor do anything in which thy brother [or sister]
stumbles [striking the toe of one's conscience against an obstacle inducing one to
sin by acting in doubt], or is offended [or stumbles or is enticed to act without faith
or think unfavourably or unjustly of another and so displeased and indignant], or is
made weak [morally feeble, without strength, powerless]. 22 Have you faith [to
believe that oral sex is right and so practice it]? Have that conviction to yourself
before God. Blessed is the one who does not judge oneself in what [belief or
practice of oral sex] one allows [with a firm and convinced faith in its rightness].
23 But one that doubts [about the rightness of oral sex], if [that] one [does oral
ex], [that one] is condemned; because that one did oral sex not because of faith
[in its rightness]; but whatever [behavior or thought does not originate from] faith
[in its rightness before God] is sin.
Oral sex and genital to skin contact involves unholiness, uncleanness.
The sin of uncleanness is the sin of violating holiness,
sanctification, being set apart only for designated actions/functions.
In marriage the wife's body is sexually sanctified, set apart, for her
husband who has sexual authority over it; and the husband's body is
sanctified, set apart, for his wife who has sexual authority over it (1
Cor 7:2-5). Holiness and moral cleanness are really important thing to
God. In heterosexual relations, relating to someone by means of a sex
organ, with someone other than your own marital partner is uncleanness
and is a violation of holiness and sanctification.
[14.] MORE THOUGHTS ON ORAL AND ANAL SEX
Acts 15 and 21 make it clear that in the early church there were two very distinct
communities, the Jews who had accepted Jesus as their Messiah and the Gentiles
(nonJews) who had accepted Jesus as their God, King, Savior, Deliverer, Redeemer.
The Spirit made it clear in Acts 15:20,29; and 21:25 that at that time the Gentile
(nonJewish) believers were in the minority and were attending fellowships where
most of the believers were Jewish, so the Gentile believers were instructed to abstain
from behaviors that would deeply offend the Jewish believers. In 1 Tim 4:1-5 the
Spirit revealed that when the Gentile believers were not in the presence of Jewish
believers, they could eat any meat they receive with thanksgiving to God. Even
after the Gentile believers' Declaration of Independence from the Sinai Law,
given in Ephes 2 and Colos 2, if they were fellowshipping with Jewish believers
they were still required to fellowship with them in the manner prescribed in 1 Cor
8:8-13 and 1 Cor 10:23-32.
For Jewish believers oral and/or anal sex involve unholiness, uncleanness.
In the Sinai Law the sin of uncleanness is the sin of violating holiness,
sanctification, being set apart only for designated actions/functions.
Holiness and moral cleanness are really important thing to God. Leviticus
has many of the Sinai Laws declaring what is unclean and what uncleanness
is. The instructions in Leviticus about uncleanness make it clear that for
Jewish believers oral and anal sex should be avoided to be blessed of God.
For Gentile believers there is no Scripture that explicity and specifically condemns
oral and/or anal sex between a husband and his wife. Read Lev 18 and Lev 20
for yourself and see. There are very real and genuine health hazards with anal sex
especially, but there are also health dangers with oral sex. Oral sex exposes both
to cardnerella vaginalis, and the infectious species found in the
mouths of those who have gingivitis and peridontitis that can
result in bladder infections, and for the man, prostate infections.
Anal sex exposes both to enterococcus faecalis, staphylococcus
aureus; staphylococcus epidermidis, streptococcus agalactiae,
enterobacter species, escherichia coli, klebsiella species,
proteus species, bifidobacterium species, peptococcus species,
peptostreptococcus species; propionibacterium species,
bacteroides species, B. fragilis, E-coli and pseudomonas, that are
deadly and antibacterial resistant. Anal sex can result in serious bladder and
prostate infections for the man. It is shere madness to have anal-oral sex no matter
how clean you may think you both are before the act, unless you both place little
value on your health and lives. So absolute cleanliness is necessary before
after and during oral or anal sex. If the wife chooses to let her husband do anal sex,
she should use a water enema first followed by a Fleet Regular Oil eneama soon
before having genital-anal sex.
The couple should not do anal sex if the wife has soft or loose bowel
movements, because anal sex results in a weakening of the rectal
sphincter, which results in bowel leakage from the anus/rectum,
requiring the wife to have to wear panty liners to catch the bowel
leakage.
If either partner has gingivitis or peridontitis, gum diseases
evidenced by bleeding gums when brushing teeth, it is possible to give
your mate bladder infections and vagina infections in oral sex.
The key passage for oral and anal sex is Romans 14, and I amplify and
[apply] here to help your understanding:
'19 So then, we must pursue what promotes peace and what builds up one
another. 20 Do not tear down God's work because of food [or marital
sex acts]. Everything is clean, but it is wrong for a man to cause
stumbling by what he eats [or does in marital sex]. 21 It is a noble
thing not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do ANYTHING that makes your
brother/sister stumble. 22 Do you have faith [the Bible based and Spirit
confirmed belief that oral/anal sex is acceptable to God]? [Privately and
discretely] keep it to yourself before God. Blessed is the [person] who
does not condemn him/herself by what he/she approves. 23 But
whoever doubts [the rightness of marital oral/anal sex] stands
condemned if he/she [does it], because his/her [marital sex] is not
from faith [based on the Bible and Spirit confirmed], and everything
that is not from faith is sin.'
The instructions in 1 Cor 8 & 10 make it clear that if Gentile believers
believe in and practice anal and/or oral sex, they need to obey Rom
14:1 and not discuss or debate these issues with the Jewish believers,
and they definitely need to make sure that they do not tell the Jewish
believers that they do oral and/or anal sex in their own marriages (Rom 14).
If you have doubts about the rightness before God of oral &/or anal sex
in your marital intimacy, you shouldn't do it and your husband shouldn't
coerce you into doing it.
[15.] DOING UNGODLY SEXUAL THINGS TO A PERSON
We know a person Loves and is Loving when he/she Loves a person with a
Love that is patient and kind, which knows neither envy nor jealousy,
is not self-advancing and self-assertive, nor irritable, boastful,
conceited or resentful; that does not behave unbecomingly, rudely,
arrogantly, nor seek to aggrandize herself, nor blaze out in
passionate anger, nor brood over wrongs; and that finds no pleasure in
injustice done to others, but joyfully sides with the truth; which
knows how to be silent, is full of trust, full of hope, and full of
patient endurance. To treat another person in any other way than this
way, described in 1 Cor 13, is to do sin to that other person. People being
treated in any way contrary to the Way of Love described here is showing sin
and should be avoided, abstained from, rebuked and not seen.
" 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these
things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7
Therefore do not associate with them; . . . 10 and try to discern what
is pleasing to the Lord. 11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of
darkness, but instead expose them." Eph 5 ESV So expose these sex sins
that are works of darkness.
[16] What about thinking of doing sex with a cartoon/animation image?
What about enjoying a cartoon showing a woman exposing her
pudenda/vulva/vagina/anus to you and the viewing public?
Just as it is sin to enjoy and delight in people doing sex sin, it is
sinful to enjoy any representation of sex sin, whether it be with
people, animals, cartoons or animations. For you to enjoy seeing a
cartoon female do sex sin, or to see a cartoon figure do what would be
sex sin for people, is to enjoy the thought of that sex sin, to enjoy
the sex sin shown in the cartoon/animation. Sure the figures are not
real, but if the act they are demonstrating is sinful, then you are
enjoying the idea of that act. If you enjoy seeing a female cartoon
figure show her vagina, labia, clitoris, anus, you are enjoying the
idea of that sex sin.
>>>"32 In short, though knowing full well the sentence which God
pronounces against actions such as theirs, as things which deserve
death, they not only keep on doing them, but even encourage and applaud
others who do them. . . ." Rom 1 >>>"4 For the weapons of our
warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy
strongholds. 5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised
against the knowledge of God, and TAKE EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE to obey
Christ, 6 being ready to punish every disobedience, when your
obedience is complete.
If you think of relating with a cartoon figure by means of your
genital, when you know that the only one you should relate to by means
of your genital is the mate to whom God has joined you in marriage, you are
doing sex sin with a cartoon image. God's solution for
sex sin is for each man to be sexually having his own woman, not for
each man to be imagining have sex with a cartoon figure. To find
another solution other than God's is sin. >>>"1Cor 7:2 but
because of cases of immorality, every man should be having his
own woman, and each [woman should be] having her own husband."
>>>"5And Jehovah seeth that abundant is the wickedness of man in the
earth, and every IMAGINATION OF THE THOUGHTS of his heart only evil all
the day; 6and Jehovah repenteth that He hath made man in the earth, and
He grieveth Himself?unto His heart" Gen 6 Yng
>>>" 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these
things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7
Therefore do not associate with them; . . . 10 and try to discern what
is pleasing to the Lord. 11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of
darkness, but instead expose them." Eph 5 ESV
[17] The Bible and Polygyny
***Ex 20:22 "And the Lord said to Moses, "Thus shall you say to the Israelites, You have seen for yourselves that I have talked with you from heaven. . . 21:1 And these are the ordinances you [Moses] shall set before [the Israelites]. . . .7 If a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant or handmaid, she shall not go out [free] as the bondmen go out. 8 If she is unacceptable in the eyes of her master, who has not espoused her to himself, he shall let her be redeemed. To sell her to a foreign people he shall have no power, for he has dealt faithlessly with her. . . 10 If he takes ANOTHER WIFE to himself, her food, clothing, and conjugal privilege as a wife he shall not diminish. 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, then shall she go out free, without payment of money."
***Deut 6: "1And these are the commandments, the statutes, and the ordinances, which Jehovah your God commanded to teach you, that you may do them in the land whereunto you pass over to possess it, . . . 21: 15 If a man have TWO WIVES, one beloved, and one hated, and they have borne him children, both the beloved and the hated, and the firstborn son be hers that was hated; . . . 1 7 but he shall acknowledge as firstborn the son of the hated, . . ."
***2Sam 3:2 Sons were born to David at Hebron: his firstborn was Amnon, by Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; 3 and his second, Chileab, by Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite; and the third, Absalom the son of Maacah, the daughter of Talmai, king of Geshur; . . . 5:13 And David took more CONCUBINES and WIVES out of Jerusalem, after he came from Hebron, and other sons and daughters were born to [him]. 4 and the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth, Shephatiah the son of Abital; 5 and the sixth, Ithream, by David's wife Eglah. These were born to David at Hebron. . . .7:8 So now say this to My servant David, Thus says the Lord of hosts: I took you from the pasture, from following the sheep, to be prince over My people Israel. . . . 16 And your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before you; your throne shall be established forever. . . 18 Then King David went in and sat before the Lord, and said, Who am I, O Lord God, and what is my house, that You have brought me this far? . . . 29 Therefore now let it please You to bless the house of Your servant, that it may continue forever before You; for You, O Lord God, have spoken it, and with Your blessing let [his] house be blessed forever. . [Jehovah-Jesus blessed David the polygynist with at least seven wives/concubines]. . 12:7 Then Nathan said to David, You are the man! Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I anointed you king of Israel, and I delivered you out of the hand of Saul. 8And I gave you your master's house, and your master's WIVES into your bosom, and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added that much again. . . . 11 Thus says the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house; and I will take your WIVES before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your WIVES in the sight of this sun. . . . 16:21 Ahithophel replied to Absalom, "Sleep with your father's CONCUBINES he left to take care of the palace. When all Israel hears that you have become repulsive to your father, everyone with you will be encouraged." 22 So they pitched a tent for Absalom on the roof, and he slept with his father's CONCUBINES in the sight of all Israel. [wives=concubines=wives]
***Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to do away with or undo the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to do away with or undo but to complete and fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things [it foreshadows] are accomplished. 19 Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." . . . 23: 1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat, 3 so practice and observe whatever they tell you— but not what they do. For they preach, but do not practice."
***Acts 15:3 So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. . . . 5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses. . . . "The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. 24 Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, . . . 28For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell." . . . 21:18 The following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present. . . . 20 And when they heard it, they glorified God. And they said to him, "You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed. They are all zealous for the Law, . . . 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay their expenses, so that they may shave their heads. Thus all will know that there is nothing in what they have been told about you, but that YOU [PAUL] YOURSELF ALSO LIVE IN OBSERVANCE OF THE LAW [given to Moses]. 25 But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality."
In light of all of this, after seeing that Jesus-Jehovah legislated polygyny under Moses, blessed King David while he had wives and concubines, after blessing him the giving him Saul's widows as additional wives/concubines, stated the importance of obeying the Law given to Moses before He was crucified, by His Spirit released the nonJewish believers from having to obey the Law without releasing the Paul and the Apostles from having to obey the Law (not for salvation but to keep their ancestors' covenant and as part of the good works to which they were called Eph 2:8,9,10), one has no Biblical or Scriptural basis for declaring the Law's Biblical polygyny to be sin. There is great danger in declaring to be sin that which God does not declare to be sin. See Deut 4:2; 12:32; and Prov 30:6.
***Mark 7:7 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
8You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.". . .
13 thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do."
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[18.] Important terms, words and concepts dealing with sexual morality - - - -
From the useage of the word in the passages listed below, we see how
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary describes these sexual acts in its
definition of intercourse, "3: physical sexual contact between
individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person." We
know that sexual relations are relations where one relates to another
by means of a sex organ, the penis, scrotum, pudenda, vulva, labia,
clitoris, and/or vagina. Fluids from the body can make one unclean, an
important issue for Jewish Christians who are still observing the Sinai
Law, like the Apostles in Acts 15 & 21; Eph 2:10 and Tt 3:8.
Lev 15:32This is the law for him that hath a flux, and for the one
whose seed of copulation goeth from him, and who is defiled<02930>
(8738) therewith:
Num 5:13 . . . and she be defiled <02930> (8738) . . . 14 . . . and she
be defiled <02930> (8738) . . . 20 But if thou hast gone aside <07847>
(8804) to another instead of thy husband <0376>, and if thou be defiled
<02930> (8738) . . . 27 . . . then it shall come to pass, that, if she
be defiled <02930> (8738), and have done <04603> (8799) trespass
<04604> against her husband . . . 28 And if the woman <0802> be not
defiled <02930> (8738), but be clean; . . . 29 . . . when a wife <0802>
goeth aside <07847> (8799) to another instead of her husband <0376>,
and is defiled <02930> (8738);
02930 tame' {taw-may'}; v
1) to be unclean, become unclean, become impure
1b) (Niphal 8738)
1b1) to defile oneself, be defiled
1b1a) sexually
Lev 15: 32 This is the law <08451> of . . . him whose seed <02233>
<07902> goeth <03318> (8799) from him, and is defiled <02930> (8800)
therewith;
33 . . . and of him that hath <02100> (8802) an issue <02101>, of the
man <02145>, and of the woman <05347>, . . . .
From the useage of the word in the passages below and above, we see how
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary describes these sexual acts in its
definition of intercourse, "3: physical sexual contact between individuals that
involves the genitalia of at least one person." We know that sexual relations are
relations where one relates to another by means of a sex organ, the
penis, scrotum, pudenda, vulva, labia, clitoris, and/or vagina. So the
full meaning of
Lev 18:22 * And thou shalt not have genital contact with mankind, as one has genital
contact with a woman: it is an abomination.
++++Dt 22:28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not
betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact with her
<07901>, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact
with her<07901> shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his
days.
++++Ex22: 16* ¶ And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
lie<07901-shakab> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be his
wife.
Strong's Lexicon: <07901> shakab {shaw-kab'}; Qal; v: to lie (of sexual
relations); of relating to another sexually, i.e. relating to another
by means of an external sex organ, penis or pudenda/vulva/labia/clitoris/vagina.
A man sexually relates to a woman by genital to genital sex, genital to
mouth sex, genital to hand sex, genital to anal sex - in fact by penis to
almost any part of a woman. In the case of the last three of these, the
genital and or breasts of the woman need not be involved for it to be
Shakab-Koitayn<7901> sex.
A woman sexually relates to a man by genital to genital sex, genital to
mouth sex, genital to hand sex, genital to anal sex - in fact by penis to
almost any part of a woman. In the case of the last three of these, the
genital of the man need not be involved for it to be
Shakab-Koitayn<7901> sex.
A homosexual relates to a man by genital to genital sex, genital to
mouth sex, genital to hand sex, genital to anal sex - in fact by penis
to almost any part of a woman. In the case of the last three of these,
the genital of one of the males need not be involved for it to be
Shakab-Koitayn<7901> sex.
***We know that it is sex sin for a man to touch and/or do the breasts
of a woman who is not his own (Prov 5:19,20,21; Ezek 23:3,8,21; Acts
21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20). So it is a sex sin for a woman to let a man
who is not her own man touch and/or do her breasts. Cartoons and
animations that portray such sex sin and people who do such sex sin should
be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
***We know that it is sex sin for a man to see, touch and/or do the
pudenda, vulva, clitoris, and/or vagina of a woman who is not his own
woman (Prov 5:19,20,21; Ezek 23:3-21; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20).
Since the anus is usually just an inch from the vagina, it is logical
that it would come under the same principles as the vagina. It is an
acrobatic feet to cover the vagina but not the anus, to touch the anus
and not touch the vagina. So it is sex sin for a woman to let a man
(who is not her own man) see, touch and/or do her pudenda,
vulva, clitoris, vagina and/or anus. Cartoons and animations that
portray such sex sin and people who do such sex sinshould be avoided by
disciples of Jesus Christ.
"25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should
abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
***We know that it is sex sin for a married woman to touch the genitals
of a man who is not her own man (De 25:11,12). Cartoons and animations
that portray such sex sin and people who do such sex sin should be avoided by disciples of Jesus
Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they
should abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
[19.] Homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism
>>>>>Homosexuality and ROMANS 1:26,27,32<<<<<<<<<
ROM 1: 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile and strong sexually excessive desires<3806>; for both their females changed the natural instinctive<5446> sexual intercourse<5540> into that contrary to natural reproduction<5449>; 27 and similarly <3668> the males also, leaving the natural instinctive<5446> sexual intercourse<5540> with the female, were inflamed in their lust [=very strong and sinful sexual desire] towards one another; males with males working out fully <2716> [their] external genitals<808>, and receiving in themselves the recompense of their error which was fit. . . . 32 who knowing the righteous judgment of God, that they who do such things are worthy of death, not only practise them, but have fellow delight in those who do [them]. DBY + Strong's and Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon
ROM 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. MEN COMMITTED INDECENT ACTS WITH OTHER MEN, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. . . 32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. NIV
ROM 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. . . . 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. NASB
>>>>>Homosexuality and 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9, 10<<<<<
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor boys kept for homosexuality, nor males who participate in sexual contact involving anal or oral copulation with males., 10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God. AB with Strong's Greek Lexicon
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. NIV
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. NASB
>>>>>>>>>Homosexuality and 1 TIMOTHY 1:10<<<<<<<<
1 Tim 1: 9Knowing and understanding this: that the Law is not enacted for the righteous (the upright and just, who are in right standing with God), but for the lawless and unruly, for the ungodly and sinful, for the irreverent and profane, for those who strike and beat and [even] murder fathers and strike and beat and [even] murder mothers, for manslayers,
10[For sexually] impure and immoral persons, nor males who participate in sexual contact involving anal or oral copulation with males., , kidnapers, liars, perjurers--and whatever else is opposed to wholesome teaching and sound doctrine.
1 Timothy 1:9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderer
and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, NASB
1 Timothy 1:9 understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
ESV
>>>*** Lev 18:22 * And you shalt not have genital contact<07901> with mankind as one has genital contact with a woman: it is an abomination. 23 And you shalt have genital contact<07901> with no beast to become unclean therewith; and a woman shall not stand before a beast to have genital contact<07901> with it: it is confusion.
[Strong's 07901 shakab {shaw-kab'};
1) to lie down
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to lie, lie down, lie on, to lie (of sexual relations, relating to another by means of a sex organ)]
The 3rd Century B.C. Jewish translators who gave us the Septuagint
translateded the Hebrew "Shakab" as "Koitayn" in the Greek. Koitayn is rendered by Linguists Strong and Thayer as "cohabitation, . . . sexual intercourse." Harper's Analytical Greek Lexicon agrees. Linguists Arndt & Gingrich go even further rendering it as "sexual intercourse, . . . seminal emission (Num 5:20 . . . Lev 15:16f, 32; 18:20; 22:4 . . .)." This is the Greek word used in Heb 13:4 of marital sex in the marriage bed. To have sexual intercourse with
someone is to be communicating and/or interacting with someone by
means of a sex organ (penis, pudenda, vulva, clitoris, vagina - see Ezek 23). Ezek 23 also shows us that it is also sin, with promised punishment/consequences to sexually communicate/interact with a female, other than your own God given heterosexual marital partner, by means of her breasts.
>>>Ezekiel 23: 2 Son of man, there were two women, daughters of one mother. 3* And they committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their virginity. . . . 8* Neither left she her SEX SINS brought from Egypt; for in her youth they had [SEXUALLY] lain with her, and had handled, pressed, and squeezed the breasts and nipples of her virginity, and poured their sex sin upon her. . . 10* These laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina, . . . . . . 17* And the children of Babylon came to her into the SEXUAL LYING DOWN of lovemaking, and they came on and with her with their SEX SIN; she too climaxed herself with them , and her soul was alienated from them. . . . . 18* And she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina; 19 Yet she multiplied her sex sins, remembering the days of her youth in which she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. 20 and SHE EVILLY DESIRED THEIR FEMALE PARAMOURS*, whose flesh/genital is [as] the flesh of asses, and whose issue is [as] the issue of horses. 21 And she made the memory of the loose ways of her early years come back to mind, in the handling and using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians, for the [desire of your]breasts of your youth. . . . [Ezek 23]
[*Everywhere that Hebrew word is found in the OT it is a female = lesbianism & bisexuality]
>>>Homosexuality and REV 21:8<<<<<<<
Caps are mine
CONTEXT: HEB 5:14 But solid food is for full-grown men, for those whose senses and mental faculties are trained by practice to discriminate and distinguish between what is MORALLY good and noble and what is evil and contrary either to divine or human law. AB
CONTEXT:Romans 1:28
And because they did not think it worthwhile to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is MORALLY wrong.
CONTEXT: James 1:21
Therefore, get rid of all MORAL filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. TNIV
Rev 21:8 But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbelieving and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and those who have sexual contact with females who aren't their own marital partners , and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters and all liars --[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death. AB
REV 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." NIV
REV 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death. ESV
[20.] THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE SEX COIN
Prov 5:18 Your genital should be blessed; and have joy of the wife of
your youth. 19 As a lovely hind and a graceful roe, her breasts should
satisfy you at all times: be ravished in orgasmic ecstasy continually
with her lovemaking.
His part is clear, but do you understand that the wife has to be
willing for him to do this, that she has to be willing, ready and able
for him to do this? You might do like the Shulamite did in the Bible's
Song of Solomon or like Queen
Esther (Esther 2:9-12), rubbing edible oils (almond, butter, honey, all
the bottled flavors, cinnamon etc) on your breasts and body to
encourage him to take you into his mouth in ecstasy. He is under
command to find sexual and emotional
satisfaction with your breasts, and to be in orgasmic ecstasy with your
love making. Your part is to be willing, ready and able, encouraging
him to do so.
You must do all in your power to keep him from turning to another for
the sexual fulfillment his testosterone driven mind seeks.
Prov 5:20 And why should you, my son, be ravished inorgasmic ecstasy
with an immoral woman, and embrace the bosom of one who doesn't belong
to you? 21 For the ways of man are before the eyes of the LORD Jesus,
and He pondereth all his goings. 22 His own iniquities shall take the
wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the
cords of his sins. 23 He shall die without instruction; and in the
greatness of his folly he shall go astray. [PROV 5 ]
From 1Cor 7 = 2But because of sexual immorality, each man SHOULD [i.e. is under the absolute
command that requires full obedience to] be [SEXUALLY] HAVING/HOLDING/ POS-
SESSING his own wife, CLOSELY [AND SEXUALLY] ADHERING, CLINGING TO [her], and each woman SHOULD [i.e. is under the absolute command that requires full obedience to] be [FONDLY AND AFFECTIONATELY] HAVING/HOLDING/POSSESSING her own
husband CLOSELY [AND AFFECTIONATELY] ADHERING, CLINGING TO [him].
From 1 Cor 7:3 = The husband should give to his wife the kindness, benevolence and good will in the marital/conjugal rights that he owes to her and is morally bound to give her, and likewise the wife should give to her husband the kindness, benevolence and good will in the marital/conjugal rights that she owes to him and is morally bound to give to her husband.
From 1 Cor 7:4. The woman doesn't have [sexual] authority over her own body, but the husband [does]; in like manner also the man doe sn't have [sexual] authority over his own body, but the woman [does].
From 1 Cor 7:5 Do not be denying each other [sexually], unless, it may be, by consent for a time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and again be conjugally cohabiting [sexually reuniting], that Satan tempt you not because of your incontinency. . . .
A word to the ladies about their marital sex and affectionate
embracing - if you want your man to hold you, hold his penis. If you
want your man to embrace and caress you, embrace and caress his penis.
If you want your man to stroke and massage you, stroke and massage his
penis. Think of it as a control stick, a computer joy stick, and get
the results you want.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BiblicalSexVsSexSin - - - - - - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SexProbsAndRecoveryInJesus - -
http://www.flickr.com/groups/biblical-sex/ - - -
http://groups.myspace.com/TeensSexAndJesus - - - -
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/SexScriptureChristiansAndJesus -
>>>http://groups.msn.com/GodMadeThemMaleAndFemale/
SexMeet up: http://ac-christians.meetup.com/159/?gj=sj8
TOPLESSNESS, THE CHURCH AND THE BIBLE
By L. Tyler; COPYRIGHT © 01/15/09
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Christian_bare_butts_breasts/
http://groups.myspace.com/ChristianToplessness
We all know about the topless women in G-string bikinis or thongs that legally do so at many public beaches in America, Mexico, South America, Africa and Europe. Topless and seminude natives are shown to be the norm in many of their own societies/cultures and countries in movies and books like "The Mission" <1>, Australia's Aboriginies living in the wilderness <2>, Sean Connery's "Medicine Man" movie ♥ >, Elizabeth Elliot's pictorial book "The Savage My Kinsman"("They were naked besides a cotton string around their hips . . "<4>, the movie about semi-nude Africans in "The God's Must be Crazy" <5> and of course older issues of National Geographic.
<1>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091530/
<1,3,5>http://www.amazon-indians.org/; http://www.martinundmarlene.de/ekuado_eng.htm
<2>http://indian-cultures.com/Cultures/yanomamo.html; http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2007/09/21/7072_news.html
♥ >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104839/
<4>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Savage-My-Kinsman-Elisabeth-Elliots/dp/0830734864; http://pastorandpeople.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/book-review-the-savage-my-kinsmen/; http://whatsbruin.net/2006/02/25/book-review-end-of-the-spear/
<5>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080801/
So what do you do as a Christian when there is no specific, explicit, unquestionable Scripture that declares that women must cover their breasts and butts in public, other than the Word given in Romans 14, 1 Cor 8 & 10?Eugene A Nida of the American Bible Association tells of a very interesting topless incident in East Africa in his book “CUSTOMS AND CULTURES, Anthropology for Christian Missions” ( by Eugene A. Nida 1954, Harper & Brothers, New York). A large African tribal group in East Africa had turned to Jesus and a very strong, well organized and thriving Church community had developed. The problem that arose had to do with the fact that in their culture only prostitutes wore bras and/or blouses because they were the only ones able to afford them. A woman wearing a bra and/or blouse wore a silent signal to any interested men that they were available for sex for pay.
A delegation of Western missionaries wanted to visit the community and the leaders of the African Church were delighted to have fellowship with them. The problem was that the missionaries advised the Elders that their women would have to cover their breasts with clothing during their visit because of Romans 14 and 1 Cor 8 and 10 issues (See them at the end of this post).
The Elders informed the foreign missionaries that it was quite impossible for their women to wear clothing over their breasts since that would ruin their testimonies as godly women and it would expose their women to all manner of unwanted and unsolicited reactions from men thinking that they were prostitutes because they covered their breasts with clothing as the local prostitutes did.
The compromise they agreed upon finally was that while the foreign missionaries were in the church and community, the Christian women would stay home or indoors somewhere out of sight. One would assume that the wives of the foreign missionaries met with the topless Christian ladies while their missionary husbands met with the men. The topless Chritian women did not appear in church or in public again until the foreign missionaries left.
It is a deadly sin to add to or subtract from the Word of God.
"Deut 4:2 You must not add anything to what I command you or take anything away from it, so that you may keep the commands of the LORD your God I am giving you. . . . 12:32 You must be careful to do everything I command you; do not add anything to it or take anything away from it. "
So it is a deadly sin for any mortal in any church to say "God says it is a sin for women to be topless in the presence of men and women." No one can establish a decree or tradition in the Name of God that is is sin for women to be topless at a beach or while breast feeding their children. There is no such decree or tradition in the Word of God.
Consider the Lord's Word in the matter:
'"Mark 7:7 They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commands of men. 8 Disregarding the command of God, you keep the tradition of men." 9 He also said to them, "You completely invalidate God's command in order to maintain your tradition! . . .13 You revoke God's word by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many other similar things."' See also Mat 15: 6-9
Since there is no Word of God on the issue of women being topless or breast feeding in public, since is sin to add to the Word of God the command "Women must not be topless or breast feeding in public," and since there is no clear, explicit and specific command or teaching in Scripture that a woman's breasts must always be covered in public, then it appears that the issue of women being bare breasted in public is a matter of 1 Corinthians 8, 10 and Romans 14.
Since Jesus tells us we are His children by adoption and wants us to have the faith of a child in HIm, the Word in Matt 18 and Mark 9 is sure and ignored at one's own peril:
18:6 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
9:42 "And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
It is a grave and deadly sin to look down on the people of the church of God and embarrass , stumble [violating one's conscience and so inducing one to sin by acting in doubt], or offended [ or stumbles or is enticed to act without faith or think sinfully, unfavourably or unjustly of another], or is make weak [morally feeble, without strength, spiritually powerless] another child of God especially, but also unbelievers who are watching you (Rom 14:21; 1 Cor 11). It is a grave and deadly moral and spiritual error to act in the presence of others in an unworthy way and so be guilty of sin against the body of believers of the Lord. So one should examine oneself as to the way he should behave in the sight or presence of others. For whoever does anything in public without recognizing well being of the body of believers does invite the judgment of God on oneself. "1 Cor 11:30 This is why many are sick and ill among you, and many have fallen asleep. 31 If we were properly evaluating ourselves, we would not be judged, 32 but when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord, so that we may not be condemned with the world." See also Hebrews 12
It seems to me that today's application in the context of the Scriptures below in the Western world today is that if you believe it is acceptable to partake of toplessness with likeminded people, you would do so after making sure they are likeminded, but if you knew that a Christian believed heterosexual toplessness is wrong outside of one's own marriage, then you would neither partake of toplessness in a way that the Christian would know about it, and you would not discuss what you personally do or believe about heterosexual toplessness with such a Christian. The Scriptures on the matter would be discussed, but not one's own personal opinion of the matter (Romans 14:1; 15:1-3.
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION:***1Cor 8: 8 It is true that a particular kind of [clothing style] will not bring us into God’s presence; we are neither inferior to others if we abstain from [toplessness], nor superior to them if we [practice] it. 9 But take care lest this liberty of yours should prove a hindrance to the progress of weak believers. 10 For if any one were to see you, who knows of this matter, [practicing toplessness], would not his conscience (supposing him to be a weak believer) be emboldened to [view topless women as well but with doubts]? 11 Why, your knowledge becomes the ruin of the weak believer--your brother, for whom Christ died! 12 Moreover when you thus sin against the brethren and wound their weak consciences, you are, in reality, sinning against Christ. 13 Therefore if [my toplessness] causes my brother to fall, never again to the end of my days will I [be topless around my weaker brothers], for fear I should cause my brother to fall. [Derived from 1 Cor 8:8-13]
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION:1 Cor 10:27 But if any one [including unbelievers] invite you [to a topless event], and you are minded to go, [partake of the toplessness] that is set before you, making no inquiry [about what others think of it] for conscience sake. 28* But if any one say to you, "[This is sinful, evil and offensive!", Do not [partake of the toplessness], for his/her sake that pointed it out, and conscience sake. 29* But conscience, I mean, not your own, but that of the other [who declared the toplessness to be evil and offensive]. For why is my liberty [to be topless] judged by another conscience? 30* If *I* partake [of toplessness] with thanksgiving, why am I spoken evil of for what *I* give thanks for? 31 Whether therefore you eat, or drink, or whatever [toplessness] you do, do all things to God’s glory. 32 Give no occasion to stumbling, whether to Jews, or Greeks, or the assembly of God.
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION: Rom 14:1 Do not receive him that is weak in the faith for the purpose of distinguishing, discerning, and judging deliberation, or questioning about what is true [about toplessness], a questioning that involves hesitation, doubting, disputing or arguing [about toplessness]. . . . 20 For the sake of [toplessness] do not destroy the work of God [in the life of another]. All things [including toplessness] indeed are pure; but it is evil to that one who [partakes of toplessness] while stumbling [in sin] because of her/his doubts about its rightness. 21 It is right not to [be topless], nor [wear G string bikinis], nor do anything [like posing nude while disretely covering one’s genitals with something opaque] in which thy brother [or sister] stumbles [violating one's conscience and so inducing one to sin by acting in doubt], or is offended [ or stumbles or is enticed to act without faith or think sinfully, unfavourably or unjustly of another], or is made weak [morally feeble, without strength, spiritually powerless]. 22 Have you faith [to believe toplessness is right and so practice it]? Have that conviction to yourself [privately, personally and/or discretely with likeminded others] before God. Blessed is the one who does not judge oneself in what [belief or practice of toplessness] one allows [himself with a firm and convinced faith in its rightness before God]. 23 But one that doubts [about the rightness of toplessness], if [that] one [partakes of toplessness], [that one] is condemned; because that one [partook of toplessness] not because of faith [in its rightness]; but whatever [topless behavior or thought does not originate from] faith [in its rightness before God] is sin.
God gave birth by Mary to a Son in Israel, and called His name JESUS for He alone saves from evil all those who wholly rely on Him alone for such salvation. He is great, and is called the Son of God, the Highest; and of His Kingdom there shall be no end. . . . I announce to you glad tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people; for the Redeemer was born to us in Bethlehem, Messiah the King
TOPLESSNESS, THE CHURCH AND THE BIBLE
Eugene A Nida of the American Bible Association tells of a very interesting topless incident in East Africa in his book “CUSTOMS AND CULTURES, Anthropology for Christian Missions” ( by Eugene A. Nida1954, Harper & Brothers, New York). A large African tribal group in East Africa had turned to Jesus and a very strong, well organized and thriving Church community had developed. The problem that arose had to do with the fact that in their culture only prostitutes wore bras and/or blouses because they were the only ones able to afford them. A woman wearing a bra and/or blouse wore a silent signal to any interested men that they were available for sex for pay.
A delegation of Western missionaries wanted to visit the community and the leaders of the African Church were delighted to have fellowship with them. The problem was that the missionaries advised the Elders that their women would have to cover their breasts with clothing during their visit because of Romans 14 and 1 Cor 8 and 10 issues (See them at the end of this post).
The Elders informed the foreign missionaries that it was quite impossible for their women to wear clothing over their breasts since that would ruin their testimonies as godly women and it would expose their women to all manner of unwanted and unsolicited reactions from men thinking that they were prostitutes because they covered their breasts with clothing as the local prostitutes did.
The compromise they agreed upon finally was that while the foreign missionaries were in the church and community, the Christian women would stay home or indoors somewhere out of sight. One would assume that the wives of the foreign missionaries met with the topless Christian ladies while their missionary husbands met with the men. The topless Chritian women did not appear in church or in public again until the foreign missionaries left.
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION:***1Cor 8: 8 It is true that a particular kind of [clothing style] will not bring us into God’s presence; we are neither inferior to others if we abstain from [toplessness], nor superior to them if we [practice] it. 9 But take care lest this liberty of yours should prove a hindrance to the progress of weak believers. 10 For if any one were to see you, who knows of this matter, [practicing toplessness], would not his conscience (supposing him to be a weak believer) be emboldened to [view topless women as well but with doubts]? 11 Why, your knowledge becomes the ruin of the weak believer--your brother, for whom Christ died! 12 Moreover when you thus sin against the brethren and wound their weak consciences, you are, in reality, sinning against Christ. 13 Therefore if [my toplessness] causes my brother to fall, never again to the end of my days will I [be topless around my weaker brothers], for fear I should cause my brother to fall. [Derived from 1 Cor 8:8-13]
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION:1 Cor 10:27 But if any one [including unbelievers] invite you [to a topless event], and you are minded to go, [partake of the toplessness] that is set before you, making no inquiry [about what others think of it] for conscience sake. 28* But if any one say to you, "[This is sinful, evil and offensive!", Do not [partake of the toplessness], for his/her sake that pointed it out, and conscience sake. 29* But conscience, I mean, not your own, but that of the other [who declared the toplessness to be evil and offensive]. For why is my liberty [to be topless] judged by another conscience? 30* If *I* partake [of toplessness] with thanksgiving, why am I spoken evil of for what *I* give thanks for? 31 Whether therefore you eat, or drink, or whatever [toplessness] you do, do all things to God’s glory. 32 Give no occasion to stumbling, whether to Jews, or Greeks, or the assembly of God.
PARAPHRASED/AMPLIFIED FOR APPLICATION: Rom 14:20 For the sake of [toplessness] do not destroy the work of God [in the life of another]. All things [including toplessness] indeed are pure; but it is evil to that one who [partakes of toplessness] while stumbling [in sin] because of her/his doubts about its rightness. 21 It is right not to [be topless], nor [wear G string bikinis], nor do anything [like posing nude while disretely covering one’s genitals with something opaque] in which thy brother [or sister] stumbles [violating one's conscience and so inducing one to sin by acting in doubt], or is offended [ or stumbles or is enticed to act without faith or think sinfully, unfavourably or unjustly of another], or is made weak [morally feeble, without strength, spiritually powerless]. 22 Have you faith [to believe toplessness is right and so practice it]? Have that conviction to yourself [privately, personally and/or discretely with likeminded others] before God. Blessed is the one who does not judge oneself in what [belief or practice of toplessness] one allows [himself with a firm and convinced faith in its rightness before God]. 23 But one that doubts [about the rightness of toplessness], if [that] one [partakes of toplessness], [that one] is condemned; because that one [partook of toplessness] not because of faith [in its rightness]; but whatever [topless behavior or thought does not originate from] faith [in its rightness before God] is sin.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-xual_Moral_Boundaries_In_Jesus/ =[fotos] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChristianToplessness4WomenAndMen2/ =[fotos]
http://groups.google.com/group/ToplessChristianWomenAndMen/ [Some fotos]
http://www.flickr.com/groups/christian_breasts_butts/ ---- [fotos]
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT...
MASTURBATION?
Thoughts and Comments on An Affair of the Mind by Laurie Hall
by R. Tyler
P.O. Box 620763, SD CA 92162-0763
Gettin2KnoYa@aol.com
oldservant@gmail.com
"Does God care about what we do in the privacy of our bedrooms?"
"Psalm 139:1 1O LORD, you have searched me [thoroughly] and have known me. 2 You know my downsitting and my uprising; You understand my thought afar off.
3 You sift and search out my path and my lying down, and You are acquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue [still unuttered], but, behold, O Lord, You know it altogether.
5 You have beset me and shut me in--behind and before, and You have laid Your hand upon me.
6 Your [infinite] knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high above me, I cannot reach it.
7 Where could I go from Your Spirit? Or where could I flee from Your presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol (the place of the dead), behold, You are there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning or dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
10 Even there shall Your hand lead me, and Your right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me and the night shall be [the only] light about me,
12 Even the darkness hides nothing from You, but the night shines as the day; the darkness and the light are both alike to You." AB
"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and the sexually immoral" (Hebrews 13:4, NIV).
"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4, KJV).
"When we become more in love
with the gifts than the One who endowed them, the things that were
designed to bless us begin to destroy us instead."
This is true. One can make sex, sexual gratification and sexual pleasure an "idol" worshiped/served more than Jesus.
"In fact, an older definition of masturbation is "self-abuse." Although more modern dictionaries may no longer carry this definition, they are still linked together under self-abuse: . . ."
That definition is not accepted or recognized by the medical community.
www.medicalonline.com.au/medical/sex_therapy/masturbation.htm
Masturbation, aka self-stimulation, is not in and of itself
harmful or evil. There is not one Scripture in the Bible that condemns
it. Like any other activity, like eating, it can be misused, used to
abuse yourself. My endocrinologists instructed me that self-stimulation
is one of my options for
voiding my prostrate to avoid difficulty in urination, prostate congestion, inflamation and infection.
1 Corinthians 6:18 (NIV) further confirms this, saying that unlawful sexual relations defile our own bodies. "Flee
from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his
body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body."
"First of all, masturbation will not truly relieve the sexual pressure that one may feel.
It may for a short moment, but in the long run it only creates a deeper
desire and capacity for sex, which will lead to more masturbation. If
you let yourself become enslaved to a sexual high, you will find that
you need to go to increasingly extreme acts to maintain the same degree
of excitement. . . . The more he indulges in his
dependency, the more ensnared by addiction he becomes. This is the
nature of all sin. That is why Jesus declared that all who sin become a
slave to sin (John 8:34)."
Yes, but if one presents his body, mind and soul to Jesus (Rom
12:1,2), yielding them to Jesus for His use (Romans 6:13, 19), he
receives the gift of being able to control his thoughts and body (Gal
5:22,23), so that God works and wills in one (Phil 2:13: Heb 13:20,21)
to enable one to self-stimulate without thinking of sex sin, of doing
sex sin, of doing/touching the breast and/or genital of a woman who is
not his wife, of seeing the privates/genital of a woman who is not his
wife.
"1 I APPEAL to you therefore,
brethren, and beg of you in view of [all] the mercies of God, to make a
decisive dedication of your bodies [presenting all your members and
faculties] as a living sacrifice, holy (devoted, consecrated) and well
pleasing to God, which is your reasonable (rational, intelligent)
service and spiritual worship." Rom 12:1,2
"13 Do not continue offering or yielding your bodily members [and faculties]
to sin as instruments (tools) of wickedness. But offer and yield
yourselves to God as though you have been raised from the dead to
[perpetual] life, and your bodily members [and faculties] to God, presenting them as implements of righteousness. . . . 19 I
am speaking in familiar human terms because of your natural
limitations. For as you yielded your bodily members [and faculties] as
servants to impurity and ever increasing lawlessness, so now yield your
bodily members [and faculties] once for all as servants to
righteousness (right being and doing) [which leads] to sanctification."
Rom 6
"22 But the fruit of the
[Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is . .
. self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there
is no law."Gal 5
"13 [Not in your own strength] for it is God Who is all the while effectually
at work in you [energizing and creating in you the power and desire],
both to will and to work for His good pleasure and satisfaction and delight." Phil 2
"Furthermore, masturbation usually involves fantasy, visualization, and often pornography."
It is quite possible to self-stimulate without fantasy, pornography or
evil visualization. A husband is under command to be sexually having
his own wife (1 Cor 7:2-5). If they are separated by the government or
by hospitalization or by conditions beyond their control, the husband
may have to self-stimulate himself in order to obey this command,
remembering his intimacy with his wife, or thinking of intimacy with
his wife. It is a sin to think of sexual contact with one who is not
your heterosexual mate, to touch such a person with your genital or to
touch such a person's genital. In the Hebrew OT that is the sin of
Shakab, sexual relations (Strong's 07901 shakab; Qal: of sexual relations),
relating to one sexually, which is ordained to take place only in
marriage. See its usage in Lev 18 and 20. It is a sin to think of
doing/touching the breasts of a woman who is not your own wife, and/or
to see the genitals/privates of a woman who is not your own wife (Prov
5:15-21; Ezek 23; 1 Cor 6).
There is no Scripture that says - - and it is a sin to add to the
Scriptures, to put words in God's mouth - - it is sin or evil to
self-stimulate oneself to orgasm simply beholding the beauty of one of
the opposite sex, without thinking of genital contact, breast contact,
or seeing genitals. There is no Scripture that says it is sin to touch
the feet, legs, back, stomach, arms,
neck or head of one of the opposite sex. Furthermore, there is no other
Scripture OTHER than Romans 14 that indicates it is sinful to
self-stimulate while thinking of touching the feet, legs, back,
stomach, arms, neck or head one of the opposite sex WITHOUT GENITAL
CONTACT OR EXPOSURE.
Romans 14 makes it clear that if you have doubts about the rightness
before God of self-stimulation, if you have no peace of mind from God
about self-stimulation, or if you offend, grieve, stumble or trouble another
by your self-stimulation, then your self-stimulation is sin. Rom 14:1
makes it clear that if you believe in godly and sanctified
self-stimulation, you must not discuss or argue about your practice of
self-stimulation with anyone who disagrees with you or feels it is
wrong. The servant of God must not argue or quarrel (rom 14;1; 2 tim
2:24-26). We may state our controversial beliefs but we must never
argure or quarrel about them, and if we believe that sanctified and
godly self-stimulation is acceptable to God, we must have that behavior
privately and discretely before God, not before or to the knowledge of
our fellow believers (Rom 14:1,22).
"I made a covenant with my eyes not to look with lust upon a
girl. I know full well that the Almighty God sends calamity on those
who do" (Job 31:1-3, The Living Bible).
The word "lust" in the Bible means "evil desire." Amen that it is sin to look upon a girl with "evil desire."
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28).
To look lustfully at a woman is to look at a woman with evil desire/thoughts. Amen to that.
"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it" (1 Corinthians 10:13).
"For though we live in the world we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ" (2 Corinthians 10:3-5).
"In the same way count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. For sin shall not be your master for you are not under law but under grace" (Romans 6:11-14).
"For we have not a high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need" (Hebrews 4:15-16, King James Version).
"Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God" (2 Corinthians 7:1).
"Can I really be set free?"
"In (this) freedom, Christ has made us free—completely liberated us; stand fast then, and do not be hampered and held ensnared and submit again to a yoke of slavery—which you have once put off " (Galatians 5:1 Amp).
"If you are in a real struggle with any form of sexual sin, we do not believe it was by accident that God led you to this teaching. He wants to set you free, starting right now! We would like to share several things that you can do to break loose from this stronghold:"
"1. Confess this sin first to God, then go to a committed Christian you trust, such as your pastor. . . .
"2. Flee from and reject anything that aggravates this sin. . . .
"3. You may need to seek healing and deliverance from qualified Christians who are anointed in this area of ministry. . . .
"4. Don't give up! . . ."
"May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The one who calls you is faithful and He will do it" (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24).
"If there is anything else we can do to help you, please let us know. In closing, we would like to pray for you:
"Mastering Life Ministries: http://masteringlife.gospelcom.net/ Teaching people how to heal sexual brokenness.
"Desert Streams: http://www.desertstream.org This is a California-based Christian organization which offers programs for people seeking sexual and relational wholeness and healing."
