The need for topless Christian sisters
Why the need of Toplessness & Christian sisters?
By L. Tyler 01/09/08
Gettin2KnoYa@aol.com
palomaysinsonte@yahoo.com
Some men with high blood levels of testosterone need to void their prostates by orgasm to prevent prostate congestion, inflamation, irritation, prostititis and prostate cancer. Men need to find sexual release in their wives.
***1 Cor 7:2and because of the whoredom each man should be having his own wife, and each woman should be having her own husband; , , , 4the wife over her own body hath not authority, but the husband [has the authority]; and, in like manner also, the husband over his own body hath not authority, but the wife [has the authority].
5Do not wrongfully deny one another [marital intimacy], except by consent for a time, that ye may be free for fasting and prayer, and again may come together, that the Adversary may not tempt you because of your incontinence; . . . 8And I say to the unmarried and to the widows: it is good for them if they may remain even as I am; 9 and if they have not abstinent control of themselves—they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn;
If a man has high levels of testosterone in his blood, experiences prostate congestion with increasing difficulty in urination, and is single or is not able to have an orgasm with his wife then, according to my two endocrinologists, he should cause himself to have an orgasm to void his prostate and relieve the prostate congestion. The orgasm would also release the testosterone-adrenalin pressure on his mind, decreasing the intensity of the sexual temptation, and his ability to deal with sexual temptations.
There are numerous ways a man can have an orgasm by himself, but self-stimulation to orgasm is probably the most common. No where in the Bible is self-stimulation to orgasm declared to be sin, as long as the self-stimulator does not think of sex sin or of doing sex sin while he/she self stimulates to orgasm. Romans 14 is the only passage that has a direct bearing on such a question of a controversial matter of conscience and personal liberty. The application goes like this paraphrased version of Rom 14:
PARAPHRASED FOR APPLICATION:14The Lord Jesus has given me the knowledge and conviction that [self-stimulation is not] unacceptable in and of itself. But it is unacceptable to a person who thinks it is. 15So if [your self-stimulation] hurts another Christian, you are no longer living by love. Don’t destroy anyone by [your self-stimulation]. Christ died for that person. 16Don’t allow anyone to say that what you consider good is evil.
17God’s kingdom does not consist of what a person [does re self-stimulation]. Rather, God’s kingdom consists of God’s approval and peace, as well as the joy that the Holy Spirit gives. 18The person who serves Christ with this in mind is pleasing to God and respected by people.
19So let’s pursue those things which bring peace and which are good for each other. 20Don’t ruin God’s work because of [your self-stimulation]. All food is acceptable, but it’s wrong for a person to eat something if it causes someone else to have doubts. 21The right thing to do is to avoid eating meat, drinking wine, or doing anything else [including self-stimulation] that causes another Christian to have doubts. 22So whatever you believe about these things [like self-stimulation], keep it between yourself and God. The person who does what he knows is right shouldn’t feel guilty. He is blessed. 23But if a person has doubts and still eats [or self-stimulates], he is condemned because he didn’t act in faith. Anything that is not done in faith is sin.
We know from Prov 5:15-20; Ezek 23: 1-21; 1 Cor 6 and Rom 7:1-3 that it is sex sin for a man to do and the breasts and pudenda/vulva of any woman who is not his own maritally, that it is sex sin for a man to see the pudenda/vulva of any woman who is not his own maritally. We know from the Scriptures below (see Genital Contact) that a man should not touch a woman (who is not his own marital partner) with his penis, and a woman who is not his own marital partner should not touch his penis. So if a man stimulates himself to orgasm without thinking of doing these sex sins, without thinking those sex sins,he is doing no sin, for the Bible no where declares this to be sin.
So a godly man can stimulate himself to orgasm by himself as long as his thinking is free of sin. No where in Scripture is it declared to be sin to kiss, touch, caress, massage, embrace, hold etc the other parts of a woman’s body, her feet, legs, thighs, butt, navel, stomach, back, arms, neck and face. So a man can stimulate himself to orgasm thinking of doing these things to those non-sexual parts of her body, without sin. Usually such thinking is not necessary for the normal highly testosteroned male, all he has to do is see a beautiful and desirable woman in an exciting pose and he has an erection and is capable of having an orgasm by her beauty alone.
And there is the rub, the problem. It is no sin for a man to enjoy, delight in, be pleased with and approve of the exciting and stimulating beauty of a virtuous topless woman who keeps her pudenda/vulva covered. It is a deadly sin for a man to enjoy, delight in, be pleased with and/or approve of the exciting and stimulating beauty of an ungodly topless woman who exposes her pudenda/vulva to someone other than her own man, her marital partner.
***Rom 1:26Because of this did God give them up to dishonourable affections, for even their females did change the natural [sexual] use into that against nature, [females with females working genitals]; 27and in a similar manner also the males having left the natural [sexual] use of the female, did burn in their [sexual] longing toward one another; males with males working genitals, and the recompense of their error that was fit, in themselves receiving. 28And, according as they did not approve of having God in knowledge, God gave them up to a disapproved mind, to do the things not seemly; 29having been filled with all unrighteousness, sex sin, . . . ; 32who the righteous judgment of God having known—that those practising such things are worthy of death—not only do them, but also have delight in and/or with those practising them.
So women who keep on doing sex sin, practicing sex sin, are worthy of death, according to the righteous judgment of God. Those who keep on doing sex sin, practicing sex sin are also worthy of death, but it is a step further into the righteous wrath and judgment of God to have delight in and/or with a woman who lets a male who is not her own mate do her breasts, see and/or do her pudenda/vulva; to enjoy, be pleased with and/or approve of such a woman who does such things. Because she is such a woman, it is sin worthy of death to enjoy, delight in, be pleased with and/or approve of such a woman who does such things whether she be clothed, unclothed, doing sex sin, or reading a book in the library. So a godly man shouldn’t stimulate himself to orgasm looking at or thinking of such a woman because he would be enjoying and delighting in one who does sex sin, one who keeps on doing sex sin, instead of turning to Jesus to be saved from all of her sins.
But without sin he may stimulate himself to orgasm looking at a virtuous and godly woman, enjoying an delighting in her beauty without thinking of doing sex sin with her or to her, perhaps thinking of kissing, touching, caressing, massaging, embracing, holding etc the other parts of her body, her feet, legs, thighs, butt, navel, stomach, back, arms, neck and face. For this reason Christian brothers who have testosterone induced temptations and/or congested prostates need to see bare butt and bare breasted Christian sisters so that they may, without sin stimulate themselves to orgasm sinlessly and thus find sinless relief from testosterone pressure and prostate congestion.
GENITAL CONTACT
e who are under the New Covenant, the Law of Christ, are expected by God to keep ourselves from what the OT Law declares to be sex sin. While the definitions came into the Church age unchanged, the social and legal consequences of sex sin under OT Law
did not remain unchanged. Israel today and no other country on earth observes and/or enforces the OT Law’s social and legal consequences of sex sin. So let’s consider how the OT Law defines the sex sin from which we are to carefully and diligently abstain.
Lev 18:22 * And thou shalt not lie<07901> with mankind as one lieth with a
woman: it is an abomination. 23 And thou shalt lie<07901> with no beast to
become unclean therewith; and a woman shall not stand before a beast to lie<07901>
down with it: it is confusion.
A key word in this consideration is Strong's 07901 shakab {shaw-kab'}; v
Qal: to lie, lie down, lie on, to lie (of sexual relations)
The 3rd Century B.C. Jewish translators who gave us the Septuagint rendered
"Shakab" in the Greek as "Koitayn". Koitayn is rendered by Lexigrapher Thayer
as "cohabitation, . . . sexual intercourse." Harper's Analytical Greek Lexicon
agrees. Lexigraphers Arndt & Gingrich go even further rendering it as "sexual
intercourse, . . . seminal emission (Num 5:20 . . . Lev 15:16f, 32; 18:20; 22:4 . . .)." This is the Greek word used in Heb 13:4 of marital sex in the marriage bed. To have sexual intercourse with someone is to be communicating and/or interacting with someone by means of a sex organ (penis, pudenda, vulva, clitoris, vagina). If a person does not realize that there is communication and interaction when the penis of a man touches the skin of a woman, that person doesn't know sex. Nonverbal communication is as significant as verbal communication and powerful and effective nonverbal communication is the penis of a man touching the skin or mucous membrane of a woman, or the clitoris/labia/pudenda/vulva/vagina of a woman touching the skin or mucous membrane of a man, or the breast/nipple of a woman of a woman touching the skin or mucous membrane of a man. Only the ignorant fail to realize the reality of nonverbal communication when the penis of a man is inside the body of a woman.
Body fluids make one defiled or unclean under the Law. A woman who has contact with the penis fluids of a man who is not her own man maritally has been "defiled" sexually, and is fornication since a woman, under the Law should be defiled by penis fluids only by her own man. See Gen 34:5,13,27; Deut 22:20-30.
From the Holy Spirit's use of <07901> above I understand the following:
1. A single woman touching/doing the genital of a man is a single woman
relating to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior.
If her relating to the man by his genital (anally, orally or manually) was
voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the man's
sexual activity,it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the
sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22.
2. A single woman receiving penis of man in her mouth is a single woman relating to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior. If her relating to the man by his genital orally was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the man's sexual activity, it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to
avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22.
3. A single woman receiving a penis in her anus is a single woman relating to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior. If her relating to the man by his genital anally was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the man's sexual activity,it was sex sin
(Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid
and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22.
4. A single woman letting a man touch his penis to her skin (feet, legs, thighs, buttocks, buns, stomach, back, hand, arm, arm pit, neck, face and/or mouth) is a single woman relating by her skin to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior. If her relating to the man by his
genital and her skin was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her
from the man's sexual activity,it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22.
5. If a man imagines and/or thinks about doing any of the above with a single woman, it is <07901 shakab> behavior, it is sex sin (Mat 5;28; Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22.
6. If a man imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a
woman's skin other than her privates (pudenda, vagina, clitoris, vulva, labia,
anus, breasts, nipples) with any part of his body than his penis and/or scrotum,
it is not specifically or explicitly declared to be sin in the Bible, as far as I know, and comes under the principles of Romans 14. So as far as I know, it is a Romans 14 matter for a man to imagine, think about or actually use his hands or feet to massage a single woman's feet, legs, thighs, buns, stomach,
back, neck, hands, arms and/or face. The husband has sexual authority over the
body of his wife (1 Cor 7:3,4), so any other man should get permission from him
before he imagines, thinks about or actually touches those parts of another man's woman.
7. If a woman imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a
man's skin other than his penis and/or scrotum with any part of her body other
than her her privates (pudenda, vagina, clitoris, vulva, labia, anus, breasts,
nipples), it is not specifically or explicitly declared to be sin in the Bible, as far as I know, and comes under the principles of Romans 14. So as far as I know, it is a Romans 14 matter for a single woman to imagine, think about or actually let a man use his hands/feet to massage her feet,
legs, thighs, buns, stomach, back, neck, hands, arms and/or face. The husband has sexual authority over the body of his wife (1 Cor 7:3,4), so any other man should get permission form him before she lets another man imagine, think about or actually touch those parts of hers; and she needs to get her own man's permission before she lets another man imagine, think about or actually touch her nonsexual parts.
8. The act of sexually stimulating oneself to to orgasm, without physical contact with another, is no where in the Bible declared specifically, explicitly or clearly to be sin, as long as one does not think sexually sinful thoughts. Self-stimulation that doesn't involve thoughts of actions that are specifically, explicitly and clearly declared to be sin by God, such self-stimulation becomes a matter of Romans 14. As far as I know, if a man has the doubt-free faith/belief that it is acceptable to God to self-stimulate to orgasm while thinking about kissing, licking and/or manually touching a single woman's feet, legs, thighs, buns, back, stomach, neck, hands, arms and/or face - while and after having massaged those body parts with olive oil and honey, it is a Romans 14 issue and he should have such faith/belief and/or practice privately, discretely and secretly before God according to Romans 14:22-23.
9.> As far as I know, if a single woman has the doubt-free faith/belief that it is acceptable to God to self-stimulate to orgasm while thinking about a man
kissing, licking and/or manually touching her feet, legs, thighs, buns, back, stomach,
neck, hands, arms and/or face, it is a Romans 14 issue and she should have
such faith/belief and/or practice privately, discretely and secretly before God according to Romans 14:22
10.> From Ezek 23 we learn more about sex sin in the following amplified (using Strong’s Lexicon) paraphrase:
‘Son of man, there were two women, daughters of one mother. 3* And they committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and pressed and there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their virginity. . . . 8* Neither left she
her SEX SINS brought from Egypt; for in her youth they had [SEXUALLY] lain with
her, and had handled, pressed, and squeezed the breasts and nipples of her virginity, and poured their sex sin upon her. . . 10* These laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina, . . . and they executed judgment upon her. . . . . . 17* And the children of Babylon came to her into the SEXUAL LYING DOWN of lovemaking, and their sexual emissions defiled her with their SEX SIN; she shared her sexual emissions with them , and her soul was alienated from them. . . 18* And she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina; and my soul was alienated from her, like as my soul was alienated from her sister. . . . 20* and she evilly desired their female lovers, whose [sexual] flesh is as the [sexual] flesh of asses, and whose [sexual] issue is as the [sexual] issue of horses. 21 And you remembered the [sexually] loose ways of your early years, in the handling and using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians, for the [desire of your] breasts of your youth. . . . Behold, I will raise up your lovers against you, from whom your soul is alienated, and I will bring them against you on every side. 23 . . all of them attractive young men, governors and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses. 24 And they shall come against you . . . and I will put judgment before them, and they shall judge you according to their judgments. 25 And I will set my jealousy against you, and they shall deal furiously with you: they shall cut off your nose and your ears, and your remnant shall fall by the sword; they shall take your sons and your daughters; and your residue shall be devoured by the fire. 26 They shall also strip you of your garments, and take away your fair jewels. [Ezek 23]
11.> Couple Ezek 23 - - -
3* And they committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and pressed and there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their virginity. . . 8* Neither left she her SEX SINS brou ght from Egypt; for in her youth they had [SEXUALLY] lain with her, and had handled, pressed, and squeezed the breasts and nipples of her virginity, and poured their sex sin upon her. . . 21 And she made the memory of the loose ways of her early years come back to mind, in the handling and using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians, for the [desire of your] breasts of your youth.
- - - - with Prov 5 - - - - -
20 [with Strong's references] And why will you, my son, be ravished <07686> (8799) with an immoral woman estranged [from God and His people]<02114> (8801), and embrace <02263> (8762) the bosom <02436> of one who is an alien [to God and His people] <05237>?
- - - - the understanding I have is that embracing, handling, pressing, using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman who is not your own woman maritally - - - whether or not the breats/nipples be clothed or bare - - - - is sex sin.
12.> Ezek 23 makes it clear that it is sex sin to lay bare, uncover, and/or expose the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris of a woman who is not your own marital partner
18* And she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina; and my soul was alienated from her, like as my soul was alienated from her sister.
13.>The nonJewish Christian might be tempted to use 1 Tim 4:1-4 to rationalize doing oral sex when single or with a single woman. The error in that is that is essential to realize that "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" at the time of Acts 14, before the nonJewish Christians were released from most of the Sinai Law in Acts 15 and 21:15-26. For a proper understanding of the Word on "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" when the Spirit led the Apostles in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26, it has to be observed that the Spirit did not move the Apostles to change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin". Just as Jesus did not change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" when He first spoke of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Mat 5:32; 19:9; the Apostles - inspired by the Spirit - in the same way did not change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" when they instructed the nonJewish Christians to avoid "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26. Oral sex and anal sex were sin because of the Sinai Laws of sex and uncleanness that both Jesus and the Apostles observed (Mat 23:3; Acts 21:24, 25, 26) the same Sinai Laws about "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" that they imposed on the nonJewish Christians when they told them to abstain from "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26. Oral sex and anal sex outside of marriage were sin during Acts 14, and they continued to be sin after Acts 15.
Oral sex and genital to skin contact involves unholiness, uncleanness. The sin of uncleanness is the sin of violating holiness, sanctification, being set apart only for designated actions/functions. In marriage the wife's body is sexually sanctified, set apart, for her husband who has sexual authority over it; and the husband's body is sanctified, set apart, for his wife who has sexual authority over it (1 Cor 7:2-5). Holiness and moral cleanness are really important thing to God.
Oral and Anal Sex in Marriage
By L. Tyler 04/15/08
P.O. Box 620763, San Diego, CA 92162-0763
oldeservant@excite.com
Dear A, I plan on sending you some things to read that I believe will help
you. There is no Scripture that condemns oral and/or anal sex between a husband
and his wife. Read Lev 18 nd Lev 20 for yourself and see. There are very real
and genuine health hazards with anal sex especially, but there are also health
dangers with oral sex. Anal sex exposes both to eColi, entroccocus and
pseudomonas, that are deadly and antibacterial resistant, so absolute
cleanliness is necessary before after and during. If the wife chooses to let her
husband do anal sex, she should use a Fleet Regular Oil eneama soon before
having sex.
The couple should not do anal sex if the wife has soft or loose bowel movements,
because anal sex results in a weakening of the rectal sphincter, which results
in bowel leakage from the anus/rectum, requiring the wife to have to wear panty
liners to catch the bowel leakage.
If either partner has gingivitis or peridontitis, gum diseases evidenced by
bleeding gums when brushing teeth, it is possible to give your mate bladder
infections and vagina infections in oral sex.
The key passage for oral and anal sex is Romans 14, and I amplify and [apply]
here to help your understanding:
19 So then, we must pursue what promotes peace and what builds up one another.
20 Do not tear down God's work because of food [or marital sex acts]. Everything
is clean, but it is wrong for a man to cause stumbling by what he eats [or does
in marital sex]. 21 It is a noble thing not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do
ANYTHING that makes your brother/sister stumble. 22 Do you have faith [the
Bible based and Spirit confirmed belief that oral/anal sex is acceptable to
God]? [Privately and discretely] keep it to yourself before God. Blessed is the
[person] who does not condemn him/herself by what he/she approves. 23 But
whoever doubts [the rightness of marital oral/anal sex] stands condemned if
he/she [does it], because his/her [marital sex] is not from faith [based on the
Bible and Spirit confirmed], and everything that is not from faith is sin.
If you have doubts about the rightness before God of oral or anal sex in your
marital intimacy, you shouldn't do it and your husband shouldn't coerce you into
doing it.
Please remember the Word in the Following:
Prov 5:18 Your genital should be blessed; and have joy of the wife of your
youth. 19 As a lovely hind and a graceful roe, her breasts should satisfy you at
all times: be ravished in orgasmic ecstasy continually with her lovemaking.
His part is clear, but do you understand that the wife has to be willing for him
to do this, that she has to be willing, ready and able for him to do this? You
might do like the Shulamite did in the Bible's Song of Solomon or like Queen
Esther (Esther 2:9-12), rubbing edible oils (almond, butter, honey, all the
bottled flavors, cinnamon etc) on your breasts and body to encourage him to take
you into his mouth in ecstasy. He is under command to find sexual and emotional
satisfaction with your breasts, and to be in orgasmic ecstasy with your love
making. Your part is to be willing, ready and able, encouraging him to do so.
You must do all in your power to keep him from turning to another for the sexual
fulfillment his testosterone driven mind seeks.
Prov 5:20 And why should you, my son, be ravished in orgasmic ecstasy with an
immoral woman,
and embrace the bosom of one who doesn't belong to you? 21 For the ways of man
are before the eyes of the LORD Jesus, and He pondereth all his goings. 22 His
own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the
cords of his sins. 23 He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness
of his folly he shall go astray. [PROV 5 ]
A word to the ladies about their marital sex and affectionate
embracing - if you want your man to hold you, hold his penis. If you want your
man to embrace and caress you, embrace and caress his penis. If you want your
man to stroke and massage you, stroke and massage his penis. Think of it as a
control stick, a computer joy stick, and get the results you want.
Your servant in Christ,
